made funked and nopoop drive the big ugly car.

[GtoRA2]

I think you may be wrong.

I bet if they made one to be fast, and stripped it upped the HP a bit it would sell damn well, if it wasn't hugely exspensive.

I will use 2 cars as an example. The WRX sti, it sells well, and it is not a luxury car.

And the Jeep Rubicon, they basically took everything everyone said they wanted and added it to a jeep wrangler and sold it for less the Sahara, and Dealers cant keep them in stock...but it isn't that great of a street car

[Dowding]

In 20 years your opinion might be worth something.

And in 20 years, so might yours.

As for the car you drive... it's pretty irrelevant. I think the point Lazs was trying to make is what have you done with cars to gain such insight into them? What experience do you have with them? What experience do you have with big blocks?

That sword cuts both ways - what experience of AWD Jap supercars do you have? How much experience of turbo driven engines do you have?

Sorry, but "I once rode in a friends evo" isn't going to cut it in the grand world of car talk.

Don't be so bloody melodramatic. You drive a BMW Mini for god's sake.

[Vermillion]

The 66 Vette was also the reason why Pontiac stopped offering tri-power. GM said multi carbs was now a Vette only feature

heheh  I will admitt that the 3 carbs are a real pain in the bellybutton to get rebuilt and tuned correctly.  We did it just last year with the help of some friends of my Dad.  If it was just strictly a performance issue, I'd have pulled them off, and put a big Holley on there with a new manifold.  BUT my car is mostly original, with most of the original parts set aside for what is not on the car.  So its worth a lot more with the Tri-power.  Plus its impressive just due to its rarity.

[GtoRA2]

I wanted to get a tripower setup for my goat, found a guy with good references who sells them complete. lol 6 months lead time and 1300$ lol I think I will stick with the carb I have!

Nothing beats them for the AWE factor when you pop the hood though.

[Skuzzy]

Wish I had a picture of under the hood of my old 69 Road Runner GTo.  Heck,..wish that dang tree would have not stepped in my way, or I would still own it.

A 6pack setup, Edelbrock high rise, cast aluminum valve covers, nice set of black Hooker headers, large Mallory HD ignition system, silicone jacketed plug wires, flex-fan,..and more internal stuff (spaghetti Crane cam from a 440, forged 11.0:1 aluminum TRW pistons, shot-peened rods, forged crank, dry sump oil system, full-grooved mains and inserts...).

You could have eaten off of any surface under my hood.

Everytime I raised the hood of that car, the oohs and ahhs would come pouring.  That was one fun car.

[GtoRA2]

Scuzzy
I wish I where rich, so many cool cars, so little money.

[Skuzzy]

Tell me about it GTo.  If money were no object, I would easily have 30 or so cars.

[Rude]

Originally posted by SirLoin
Sorry to say Dowding,but "they" are trying to fed you up and "drive" you out of AH BBS like other perceived "Liberals".

Sirloin is paranoid:)

[Mini D]

Originally posted by Dowding
That sword cuts both ways - what experience of AWD Jap supercars do you have? How much experience of turbo driven engines do you have?

AWD Japanesse?  I've never owned one.  Have you? I did own 2 Audi Quattros (one 4000S, one 100CS)... but those weren't particularly peppy.  I've also owned a 300ZX (91) that was a particularly nice car... one of my favorites.

Of course, I have ridden in a few scoobies (WRX)... since the parking lot is littered with them.  I do think the Audi Coupe from the early 90's was a better all around car.  That is from having ridden in both (though I've never driven a scoobie).

I also have somewhat of a hot-rod connection due to the side of the family that runs http://www.dutchmanms.com (Dutchman MotorSports).  Though, that's mostly very late model fords with big blocks and tri-5 chevys.  I do have a friend at work that is very into the late 70's Dodge "Little Red Express" scene, as well as the 50's-60's chevy scene... and I do alot of car stuff with him.

Of course, we also have the BMW contingent at work too (about 1/4 of the cars at work are BMWs these days)... so I get a good look at a variety of vehicles.  Its pretty much the difference dowding.... I'm not talking **** about a bunch of cars I know nothing about.  You are... cause you got a ride in one.

It's been about 30 years since the big blocks ruled.  These days, cars are still trying to live up to their performance.  Those cars are worth their weight in gold these days for a very specific reason... they were awesome.  Let's continue this discussion in 30 years when you're old enough to get it.  We can call the thread "anyone remember a car called the EVO?"

MiniD

[Rude]

Ya know....some have missed the point here....there is no substitute for horsepower....you can get close, but nothing like it.

My cherry popped in a 69 GTX...440...straight linkage racing tranny....a whole bunch of other stuff that I can't remember any longer....I was 14 yrs old.

I had a 67 GTO convertible restored....I lost my arse on that car, but I had over 400 horses under the hood....30mph 2nd gear insanity.

It's all about horsepower....the sound, the smell, the feel of it has no equal.

Dowding I'm sure you have some stories, but until you've had your cherry popped, you won't be taken very seriously by any  led sled ownin, sledgehammer totin, muscle car lovin, red blooded American born male....especially one born and raised thru the 50's and 60's.

It's nothin personal....just try and understand it the best ya can:)

BTW...I've owned  911's, Saabs and a Beemer....all nice cars, but just not the same experience as ridin pure horsepower:)

Now I drive a big SUV and a Conversion Van....that's what a wifey, four kids, two cats and a dog tend to do to the old days....it's all good mind you....just different:)

[funkedup]

I do think the Audi Coupe from the early 90's was a better all around car.

MinD, with all due respect, that statement indicates a serious deficiency in your automotive knowledge.

[Skuzzy]

Rude is right.

The muscle car era was about 'muscle'.  There was no finesse.  It was all brute force.  You can poke and joke about it all day long, but there was something that would just raise the hair on your neck when one of those monsters cut loose.

You just had to be there is really appreciate it.  It was an era that has come and gone and will never be again.  Those that grew up in that time carry something with us that no one will ever be able to experience again.

It is one of the things we Americans have as our own.

[Dowding]

Sigh. Now you can't even be consistent within your own posts. Basically, I'm talking bollocks because I'm limited the cars I've ridden in, but you're an all knowing genius because of the cars you have ridden in.

Okaaaay.

[funkedup]

Also about Evo's and STi's...
Both of those cars can run low 13's right off the showroom floor.  Not a whole lot of the classics on that Motor Trend link could do that.
Car like Lazs has are a different matter, but they represent something custom built with a level of technology that wasn't available back in the day.  
If you want to do apples to apples you'd need a tuner version of an STi or Evo.  Something like a Group N or Open class rally car.  Which would eat Lazs' car for breakfast and come back for seconds.  But it wouldn't sound nearly as cool or make nearly as much tire smoke, which counts for a lot in my book.

And oh yeah, that rally spec car would set you back about 4 or 5 times what Lazs spent.

[Mini D]

Originally posted by funkedup
MinD, with all due respect, that statement indicates a serious deficiency in your automotive knowledge.

ummm... Take a peak.  The scoobie is a little quicker, but I liked every other aspect of the coupe better.

Have you ever ridden in one of these from 93-96?  I've only seen one before and they were somewhat rare in the states.

MiniD