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« Reply #150 on: July 28, 2003, 05:04:04 PM »
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Disregard my earlier statement, I was thinking of a different car.  Was thinking of the previous generation which had a lot of VW Rabbit parts in it.  I don't care much for Audis in general.  Basically VW's with different badging and the price jacked up a few thousand.  That one in your link looks pretty cool though.
Ah... there it is then.  The what we know vs what we think we know.

I don't know everything about cars... there's plenty I don't know.  I do know enough to see right through some of the statements being made.  The evo is a good car, but its not as good as the Audi Sport from the mid 80's... the one that pretty much defined the modern AWD car.

And the Scoobie is not all that different than the Mitsubishi Conquest TSi or eagle... or whatever it turned into.  They all come and go and are soon forgotten.  They have the big boost over stressed engine syndrome and end up  on a lot somehwere selling for $500 next to 10 year old bmws.

Then there are the cars on which legends are based.  The Mid-60's muscle is one.  The tri 5 chevy's are another as well as the 30's fords.  The ferrari roadsters and the small british coupes would fit in there.  The Audi Quattro Sport and the Porsche Grouppe B were defining cars too.  As was the Corvette ZR-1 and the McClaren.  All of these cars had relevance and were awe inspiring.  The only Japanese car I can think of that might even remotely fit into this category would be the 240Z... but that's a stretch.

Coming up with a car that gives the 60's muscle a run for it's money is not an achievement... not when it comes close to so many mid 60's muscle cars.  To come into a thread about mid 60's muscle and say otherwise is to make yourself look like Dowding... young and inexperienced.

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« Reply #151 on: July 28, 2003, 05:35:36 PM »
I think its time for some shameless pic posting.  Behold:  The Fast, and The Furious (repectively)









This last guy spent so much money on his body kit and stickers that he didnt have enough left over to do suspension work, apprently.

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« Reply #152 on: July 28, 2003, 05:38:48 PM »
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The evo is a good car, but its not as good as the Audi Sport from the mid 80's... the one that pretty much defined the modern AWD car.


Actually the Evo and STi are very similar to the Audi Sport Quattros.    Like the Quattros they are variants of normal road cars designed for FIA world rally homologation.  They are a little heavier but they also benefit from modern braking and AWD systems which are more sophisticated than what even the racing version of the Quattro had.  Unlike the Quattro they are affordable by people who aren't millionaires.  Also these are not newly designed cars or short term models.  They have both been sold for 10 years now and are going strong all over the world.

PS to be clear we are talking about the Audi Sport Quattro here, not the pedestrian Quattro coupe that was sold in the US from 1980 to 1987 or so.

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« Reply #153 on: July 28, 2003, 05:39:18 PM »
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 That vette is nice...

 Man I hate that color on the Goat. I swear to sweet god Pontiac must have gotten the deal of the century on the color, so many goats ruined by it...

:D

What the hell where those other things...
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« Reply #154 on: July 28, 2003, 05:40:45 PM »
Saur, the funny thing is that the two Jap cars you pictured run low 15's from the factory and 14's with a few bucks.  In stock form the GTO you pictured was a mid-14 second car.  The Jap cars handle and brake so much better it's not even funny.  Now the Corvette could be a lot faster if it's the right one, but plenty of them were built that couldn't break 14 seconds.  They definitely have more style than the ****ty ricers you pictured though.  :)
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« Reply #155 on: July 28, 2003, 05:43:50 PM »
Give me the same few bucks and that stock 70 goat, and it will be in the low 13s.

Well depending on what few bucks means lol.


Not to be nitpicky but the info on the 69 GTO judge was wrong, in 69 it came with a Ram 3 400 standard and like 360HP and a Ram Air 4 with 366 as an option. There was no 455 that year.

the other cars looked right but who knows what else they got wrong?
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« Reply #156 on: July 28, 2003, 05:47:39 PM »
Perhaps - but why?

Look at the friggen tires on the 60's cars - theyre pizza cutters.  How are you supposed to put 300+ ft/lbs to the ground with 6 inch tires?

I dunno what it takes to get a Civic into the 14's, but I do know it would take more than a cone filter and exhaust....

The tuning capabilities with the older cars are very extensive - that same 'few bucks' that someone wastes on a Civic are well spent on a GTO - Im sure Lazs could speak far more intelligently on this than I could.

Id be more interested in trap speeds - what would a 14 second Civic trap at?  90 MPH?  And the GTO?  Considerably more I'd bet.

Appels and oranges though.  Do you want the ground to shake when you drive by or do you want an annoying buzzing in your ear all day?  :D

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Re: Funked
« Reply #157 on: July 28, 2003, 05:48:13 PM »
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Give me the same few bucks and that stock 70 goat, and it will be in the low 13s.

Well depending on what few bucks means lol.


Of course.  What I mean is Saur should have picked crappier cars to make fun of because the ones he pictured are reasonably quick.  If the Goat or Vette owner has crappy tires or hasn't touched his motor or has an automatic or is a crappy driver, he could get an unpleasant surprise.  :)
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« Reply #158 on: July 28, 2003, 05:51:12 PM »
LOL
 One was an acura what was the other?

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« Reply #159 on: July 28, 2003, 05:52:21 PM »
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LOL
 One was an acura what was the other?


It's 99-00 Civic Si.  I know because I used to drive one.  :)
It would cruise at 120 or you could get 35 mpg if you were so inclined.  Very nice suspension, but the brakes were lousy and it didn't have enough head room for me.  Also it really needed an LSD.
Mine didn't have all the retarded crap stuck on it of course.
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Was the SI the higher HP
« Reply #160 on: July 28, 2003, 05:55:38 PM »
version with Vtech?

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« Reply #161 on: July 28, 2003, 05:56:23 PM »
at least show some quick jap cars instead of carp civics :D

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« Reply #162 on: July 28, 2003, 05:59:09 PM »
PS If a Civic Si owner wanted to be a drag racing stud he would get a Vortech blower for about $4k and an LSD for about $1k.  Cars with that setup run high 12's low 13's.  But if you spent $5k on the Goat motor you would probably get a lot more bang for the buck.  And it wouldn't be nearly as likely to hand grenade as the Honda.
Anyways most of the guys with the racing stripes and huge wings would never do that, because it would involve wrenches and icky oil and grease.  They are much more comfortable with stickers and Bondo and fiberglass.
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Re: Was the SI the higher HP
« Reply #163 on: July 28, 2003, 05:59:45 PM »
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version with Vtech?


Yes the stock rating was 160 hp at 8000 rpm.  Redline was 8200.  1.6 liter.  They had really short gears which was why the 1/4 times were fairly good.  Top speed was redline limited, about 140.  If you could get a Mini with that motor I probably wouldn't have a Subaru.  :)

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« Reply #164 on: July 28, 2003, 06:05:12 PM »
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 I heard they attracted car theives like **** does flies as well! lol

Hell for 5 grand I would barely touch the motor, and go with a richmond gear six speed, just like the one I sold Laz.

Then it would be a toss up, heads from edelbroch, or new front suspension to make it handle better.
A new set of tires would be a must.


If it was a Ram Air 4 Goat, then the heads are already pretty good, lol.

You can do so much to a GM A-body... its just money. I need to be rich!!!
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