Why citabria is a loser

[indian]

War is about survival not fairnes if this bothers you bye. Telling everyone to fight the way you want is B.S.

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[Sancho]

film unavailable

[Staga]

Works fine here

edit: Cannot look film in my filmwiever  

[This message has been edited by Staga (edited 09-17-2000).]

[Zigrat]

Indian,
This isn't war. War is about survival, and in war I would certainly advocate using every possible means of survival! But this is a game, and most games are based on principles of fairness. Thats why they are enjoyable, because you don't know the outcome and it is fun to anticipate and wonder what the outcome will be. Then again, are you all pro wrestling fans, where the outcome is pre scriped and just watching it for the show? Personally I've never fould that entertaining.

[Suave1]

You know the more I think about this post the more it pisses me off. Having been the subject of a "So and so is a looser, I have film" post myself . This is the equivelant of scratching someones car instead of going face to face with him. If you have a beef with someone just shoot them down. A squadron logo from an old squad of mine comes to mind. Res non verba .

[Hangtime]

Me neither. But I hear China has big hooters.  

[Nath-BDP]

I would expect more from Cit, I never thought he would sink as low as to run to ack from a 1v1. Thats just weak. He obviously didn't want to risk ending his streak.

[Kieren]

I find this selection interesting. Except for the direct references to Citabria, this pretty much sums up my experiences in the MA for the past couple of months...

   

There was an incident that changed my opinion of the man and it is not at all unlike this incident right here.
I got into a dogfight with Citabria and after a few go rounds I decided there was no way I could top this guy so I ran to the nearest ack. I hate dying and would rather do anything I have to to survive. A little while later I spin around and, somehow, he ends up right in my sights. I fire and he blows up.
I usually squelch chanel 1 because I hate the childish name calling and whining. It ruins the imersion for me.
So Citabria comes on a private chanel and says to me, "Now you know how to kill me, run like a little girl to your ack like the sissy you are" or some such.
In any event, later I was flying around and managed to find Cit again. I also succumbed to his taunting and got into another dogfight. He creamed me, of course, from an energy disadvantage because he is a far superior pilot than I.
But here's what sucks: That was the least fun I've ever had playing this game. I actually felt worse than before I started. Is this fun cussing out people who beat you or who won't let you beat them? Insulting people you don't know?
Anyway, I just find it ironic that Citabria is on the receiving end of the EXACT SAME vicious crap he handed me.
Cit's response to the above was "Squelch me".
He makes the game be more work than it should.

This pretty much captures the spirit of how I feel things have digressed.

Bringing things here that are personal never helps, either. E-mail is much better, and oftentimes you can reach an understanding that the open nature of the BBS will prevent. Additionally, we don't have to be the "udge-and-jury" of who is right or wrong. You may not reach an understanding, but at the very least you don't look like an bellybutton in the open forum for cussing someone out.

Personally, I don't care how anyone flies. They are either in a position where I can kill them or they aren't. I certainly may have a lot more respect for someone that can go into a crowd alone and pull out a lot of scalps and get away, but I wouldn't disrespect a pilot for hugging ack.    



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[CptTrips]

>and most games are based on principles of
>fairness.

LoL.  

This is a combat simulation.  And combat is centered around the idea of denying the enemy every possible shred of fairness.  Your duty is to gain every possible advantage while denying the enemy any possible advantage.  The point of air combat is to orchestrate an uneven playing field in your favor (through alt, numbers, or position)and prosecute it ruthlessly until the enemy is destroyed.  If at any time you lose the advantage you should consider declining the engagement if it is still possible to egress until such time as you once again hold all the cards.  

You're either the meat-eater,
or the meat-eaten.

There is no third choice.


Regards,
Wab

[Nath-BDP]

Its funny how most of these people that are advocating 'ack hugging' aren't exceptional pilots.

[AKDejaVu]

And its funny how most of the people against ack hugging usually are killed by ack because they don't know when to disengage.  I think you need to learn what does/does not make a good pilot.

For some reason, some people seem to think that AH is a large series of 1:1 dogfights.  Each fight is a gunfight of sorts with two people standing at the end of a dirt road.  Occasionally, there will be 2 people at the end of each road and that is ok too.  Just don't ever allow 2vs1 or worse because that is not fair.

These people are the ones that are too clueless not to offend in the main arena.  That pilot that dives into ack, gets shot down, then screams "ack hugger".  That pilot that dives into a furball, gets shot down, then screams "gangbang".  That pilot that respawns 20 times at a field, gets shot down every time, then screams "vulcher".

THESE are the people that make the game less fun.  The people that can't accept that their own stupid decision was the reason they got killed.  Time to learn to get over it.  I see little difference between this type of whining and Cit's frequent outburst on channel 1.

AKDejaVu

[Mathman]

It is funny how people who say ack hugging is for dweebs are the ones with the elitist, "my sh!# don't stink and if you shot me down, then YOU must be the dweeb" attitude.

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[Camel]

Its funny how one can make and bellybutton out of himself and not notice.

[Fariz]

 

Originally posted by Zigrat:
Indian,
But this is a game, and most games are based on principles of fairness. Thats why they are enjoyable, because you don't know the outcome and it is fun to anticipate and wonder what the outcome will be. Then again, are you all pro wrestling fans, where the outcome is pre scriped and just watching it for the show?

That is really interesting. I read very same argument about wrestling on the forum of the russian quiz game Who?Where?When? just few days ago  

But here it sounds strange. You fight income was not prescripted, Cita used acks as a chance for defence, you tried to get him there, risked, and died. Do not see anything prescribed in the situation.

About fair chances, Cita had chance to go to acks, you had chance not to go into them. So it is fair. You have your own field with very same acks where you can hide. So again it is fair.

Fariz
"Errarum humanum est".

[Fariz]

 

Originally posted by AKDejaVu:
THESE are the people that make the game less fun.  The people that can't accept that their own stupid decision was the reason they got killed.  Time to learn to get over it.
AKDejaVu

Very true. Frustration is a great thing for a self development. Pity not to use it.

I remember once one great AH pilot shot me down several time same day. I recorded fights, then analized them, then find the tactics against his one and later this day shot him down twice more times than he did. It could not happen if I offended him to show myself that it was nothing that coincedence/cheating/unfair play/etc. Actually he was just great pilot, and he was better than me.

Actually each pilot who shot us down makes us a favour: another chance to study something new from someone, who is better.

Fariz.