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Offline Eagler

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Re: speaking of pedals..
« Reply #15 on: July 29, 2003, 10:34:57 AM »
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I don't think i have the pedals axis set quite right.  Anybody out there that can post a pic of their rudder axis?


it's z or x in the ah jstick setup screen

be sure to calibrate them along with your jstick - I calibrate first thing each time I log into AH.
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« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2003, 10:38:30 AM »
i am totally in love with my CH Pro pedals Funkedup sold me (ty again bro :D )

i learned to fly on the logitech wingman twisty. after about 5 of em in a year and a half (im real tough on em lol) i upgraded to the x45.

the seperation of rudder from my right hand was tough to overcome (still havent fully gotten it yet) but i noticed a difference in my capabilities right away.

now with the pedals im just getting the hang of them. it is amazing what you can do in a flash just by slamming 1 foot forward. ;) the only drawback i see is im not gettin 's for a good fight as much as i did back in the twisty days 1.5 years ago :D im kinda wondering if somone using a twisty stick can do something completely wild that a full HOTAS + pedal setup can't.

oh well i digress... pedals are the way to go i think. your thought process while flying is totally diferent. you actually plan your moves and evasives, because you know what you can and can't do. IMHO you fly ALOT more "in control" once you get the hang of it. no to mention the "coolness" factor that you are simulating real flight (or at least closer to it than with a twisty "joy"stick. :D

in closing... go with 'em. your gunnery hit% will take a sharp drop at first because of the ammount of rudder used in aiming, but after that you will love it too. :)

oh well my 2¢
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« Reply #17 on: July 29, 2003, 11:08:16 AM »
Had pedals for 5 years since Red Baron - AH is my 3rd online sim and I couldn't fly without them now

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« Reply #18 on: July 29, 2003, 11:17:20 AM »
if you want to feel more like flying a real aircraft, use pedals.
that's the bottom line :p

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« Reply #19 on: July 29, 2003, 11:44:28 AM »
Hey 38,

You porbably did so already but just incase,

Adjust you sliders in joystick setup so the middle is not as sensative and most sensative at full deflection.

They are really hard to use if they are too sensative.

Put in the time, they are well worth it.


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Re: Re: speaking of pedals..
« Reply #20 on: July 29, 2003, 04:00:53 PM »
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Originally posted by Eagler
it's z or x in the ah jstick setup screen

be sure to calibrate them along with your jstick - I calibrate first thing each time I log into AH.


Yes I know this.  I'm looking for the rudder axis 0-90 chart with the deadband scrollbars, if someone has a good setup could you snapshot it here plz?

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« Reply #21 on: July 29, 2003, 04:44:37 PM »
Yes to Rudder pedals, You will spend the 1st week forgetting they are there (Until you realise you can't trim because you have your left foot resting on them). The 2nd week over using them and finally it will all drop into place, I've been using them for about a year and now I won't fly a sim I can't get them configured in. You just can't get the control with a twisty stick. (Yes I get killed all the time with guys who use em but I could never go back). Take off and landing is transformed and jabo's are so much easier IMO.

Just don't forget Left pedal is left, Right is right (I spent the 1st few weeks with them configured like bicycle handlebars). :p

Real planes use them rather than a twisty, there must be a reason.

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Re: Re: Re: speaking of pedals..
« Reply #22 on: July 29, 2003, 10:15:09 PM »
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Yes I know this.  I'm looking for the rudder axis 0-90 chart with the deadband scrollbars, if someone has a good setup could you snapshot it here plz?




My other ones are the same, except for throttle which both are all the way to the bottom.
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« Reply #23 on: July 29, 2003, 10:46:59 PM »
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Avoid rudder pedal !


With rudder pedal you can't fly and practice yoga .
The lotus position is impossible to do with rudder:




My guess is that rudder owner are responsible of a  considerable amount of whine on channel 1 ...


you too?;)

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« Reply #24 on: July 30, 2003, 01:54:12 AM »
I wouldn't fly without rudder pedals.  No way a twisty stick can give you the same response or control accuracy like rudder pedals can.



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« Reply #25 on: July 30, 2003, 03:07:01 AM »
I say nix the pedals, maybe.  You really need to see what's best for you.  Bottom line is hit percentage and control of the nose in close.  How well are you able to throw the shot and control it?

I work on two fundamental principles.  First, rudders are only for the runway.  If you have to use them in a shot - you pooched the
setup and are trying to save it.  Second - see the first.

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« Reply #26 on: July 30, 2003, 03:11:14 AM »
Eagler - Isn't that the default setting?  I thought u were supposed to stagger  them up..  How much of a difference does it make do you think?

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« Reply #27 on: July 30, 2003, 03:19:05 AM »
Pedals,

They are great to rest your feet on... Once you get the pedals and you have flown about an year or so, try to take them away and you will understand :)

And you can use them for other things also, car games etc...
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« Reply #28 on: July 30, 2003, 03:59:26 AM »
You dont aim with your rudder :p

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Re: Re: Re: Re: speaking of pedals..
« Reply #29 on: July 30, 2003, 04:12:20 AM »
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My other ones are the same, except for throttle which both are all the way to the bottom.


Interesting, I have never changed these settings. Is there an advantage?

Rudders with brakes are the chit, meaning buy the CH Pro Pedals USB, and I use them with the USB Saitek X45. A perfect combo.

Although I have been having problems with one or the other just stop working in WinXP mid flight in AH, certainly there is a cause/fix to it. Hope so anyway, but I have just been dealing with it. It's just so much better than the hoopty twisty stick, I try to ignore it, although it is becoming a pain.