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Offline 38ruk

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« on: July 28, 2003, 08:49:47 PM »
hello all. lately ive been trying out rudder pedals . i was wondering if it is worth the trouble. ive flown with a twisty stick for the last seven years in a couple of sims, and am having a real tough time making the switch. Is it worth the head ache? im gettin tired of missin shots cause i cant get used to them. is it worth the couple of months of frustrations, are they that much better than a twisty.   thanks for any advice on the matter 38

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« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2003, 09:24:46 PM »
Yes.

Offline Slash27

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« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2003, 09:29:30 PM »
Peddals are great

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« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2003, 09:53:43 PM »
Personally, I would recommend against getting a set of pedals.  However, I also say junk the twisty stick.  I recommend instead that you get the Saitek X45 with the rudder rocker under the throttle.

I got a set of Thrustmaster pedals way back in the mid-90s and they served me very well for many years.   I used them with 2 generations of TM sticks and throttles, and then later with a CH stick and throttle.  

But several years ago, my CH stuff wore out and TM at that time was out of business.  I was tired of the limited functionality of CH stuff compared to what TM used to have, so I decided to risk something else.  Besides, I wanted to go digital, being tired of pots getting dirty, and USB as well.  Thus, I got the Saitek (which at that time was called the X36), which had even more functionality than my older TM stuff.

The Saitek, as noted above, doesn't have rudder pedals.  Instead, it's got a rocker bar on the bottom side of the throttle handle, which you work with the middle and ring fingers of the left hand.  This did NOT sound like a good idea to me, and caused me real reluctance in making the purchase.  But finally, it came down to only Saitek at that time offering the functionality I wanted, so I figured I'd take a risk on it.  It took me a week or so to get used to it, and to figure out how to set the damping and deadbands to give me the desired degree of control.  However, once I got it all sorted out, I fell in love with the Saitek rocker.  I now like it way better than I ever did my pedals.

As I see it, the rocker has the following advantages over pedals:
  • Doesn't slip out of position on the floor, or require a mount on the floor to keep it stationary
  • No wire coming up from below the desk to tangle your foot on, run over with your chair's wheels, etc.
  • Doesn't get all full of dirt, chip crumbs, pet hair, and spiders because it's not on the floor.  These aren't as big a concern these days with digital gear, but even without pots the crap can still gunk up pedals and you might get a spider bite if you fly barefoot.
  • Allows you to change your sitting position easily during flight because you're not tied to where the pedals are.  This is wonderful during long scenario hops.


Anyway, I'm sold on the Saitek thing and recommend it as a better alternative to pedals.

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« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2003, 10:05:10 PM »
worth the trouble? quite the opposite.

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« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2003, 11:34:45 PM »
thx for the replies... bullethead i tried the x-45 and didnt care for the rocker thats why im using the pedals , very good points thou,as far as seat pos. and such.  its just been a big change to go to rudder pedals. im just wondering if its going to help my acm when i dont have to twist my wrist in awkward position   thx all 38

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« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2003, 11:44:50 PM »
I learned AH, my first flight sim, with a twisty stick... MS Sidewinder Precision Pro, then moved to Logitech Wingman Extreme 3D digi stick with twisty, ... currently running the Saitek X45 and a set of CH pedals... I would never go back to a twisty stick.  I dislike the rudder rocker on the X45 as well, though I love the rest of the setup.  Once you get used to them, the acm advantages of pedals far outweigh the crud on the floor problems, at least for me.  Besides, just be sure the potato chips go IN the mouth, and there is no problem!  :)

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« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2003, 11:57:00 PM »
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« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2003, 12:30:23 AM »
YES!

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« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2003, 01:43:49 AM »
Avoid rudder pedal !


With rudder pedal you can't fly and practice yoga .
The lotus position is impossible to do with rudder:




My guess is that rudder owner are responsible of a  considerable amount of whine on channel 1 ...

Offline Rutilant

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« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2003, 07:23:08 AM »
I used twisty stick.. i can hardly imagine myself flying with either one :p

I'll prolly be gettin pedals though..

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« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2003, 08:56:04 AM »
Pedals are for pilots...twisty sticks are for kids:)

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« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2003, 09:11:54 AM »
Quote
Originally posted by Rude
Pedals are for pilots...twisty sticks are for kids:)


Your sentence is extremly funny for me :)

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« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2003, 09:18:12 AM »
REAL MEN USE PEDALS !!!
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« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2003, 10:26:51 AM »
I don't think i have the pedals axis set quite right.  Anybody out there that can post a pic of their rudder axis?