Author Topic: Parents: White Teacher Should Not Teach Black History (Read 2100 times)

Vulcan · « **Reply #60 on:** July 31, 2003, 08:42:15 PM »

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Originally posted by muckmaw
Personally, I like to believe that a standard history class would teach the contributions of all people, regardless of race.

Exactly, the giveaway in this is statement:
"That person still has the advantage of the culture," said Williams, who is black. "They understand the nuances of the culture."

What does current culture have to do with history other than revising it?

And then theres this gem:
"How do you work through that when the person teaching it is the same type of person who did the enslaving?"

Same TYPE of person. This is a blatantly racist statement saying that if a non-black teaches black history that person is the type to enslave people.

Little old NZ is going through some similar 'issues'. And in our politcal overcorrectness we've 'revised' history somewhat. Follow our path and you won't like where it leads. Some Maori are pushing for seperate legal, governing, etc systems. In the past this was called apartheid. Its splitting our country, and encouraging racism from both sides and will never lead to any good.

lazs2 · « **Reply #61 on:** August 01, 2003, 08:47:08 AM »

I think the problem is that this nation is a melting pot. Hispanics (where is hispain BTW?) and asians and others make up a larger segment than blacks yet all we hear is the crybaby black crap.

yu want elective classes for black or Scot or hispanic or Irish? fine... but only if you have paid for everything else and can afford it.

History... history is what it is. If you only have room for 2 sentences about the invention of the lightbulb then I would say that you better use them to talk about Edison. If you have a clasws on inventions and a week is devoted to the light bulb then you probly should mention everyone even remotely involved. with History in High school you only have time to hit the high spots.

I don't think anything important that was done (history wise) is being left out intentionally because of race. To insinuate that it is strikes me as being crybaby and dishonest. I find that I avoid dishonest crybabies and vote against anything that they may want.
lazs

lazs2 · « **Reply #62 on:** August 01, 2003, 08:52:16 AM »

Also... I believe that anything that spike lee says is an intentional lie. I believe that rap "artists" hate their own race as much as they hate whites... I also believe that anyone can be a racist and that racism is the hate of a person simply because of his race.

I would say that there are more black racists than whites but I sympathize.. they are wrong but I can see why they would become such. I have no solutions. for now, I will simply avoid racists. I am too world weary to pander.
lazs

DiabloTX · « **Reply #63 on:** August 01, 2003, 09:21:34 AM »

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Originally posted by jamusta
Oh and affirmative action is a tool used to equal the playing fields for all...

Oh BS, its legal racism. The ONLY determination is skin color and/or gender. Quals are always secondary. And congrats on not needing handouts.

Krusher · « **Reply #64 on:** August 01, 2003, 09:46:41 AM »

Do we need to import a Brit to teach British Literature?
A Hispanic to teach Spanish or Frenchman to teach French?
Are only Jews able to teach about the holocaust?
This list could get pretty long.

lazs2 · « **Reply #65 on:** August 01, 2003, 02:31:42 PM »

As toad pointed out.... our bloated educational system and it's teachers union would like nothing better that the educational version of the tower of babel.
lazs

jamusta · « **Reply #66 on:** August 01, 2003, 03:02:34 PM »

I see having a constructive conversation on the subject is just impossible. Some off you are just to ignorant to open your eyes and see how things really are. America is so fair to everyone in your eyes. The thread has been hijacked from the original subject. I simply try to explain to one person what black history was and now its all about racism and reverse racism. We could not stay away from the childish remarks and have an adult type conversation. I want so badly to say what I honestly feel right now but will not... As of now I am offended and angry... Some of your remarks are whats wrong with america now..

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #67 on:** August 01, 2003, 03:07:03 PM »

"and now its all about racism"

Are you kidding me, what part of that article is NOT about blatant racial discrimination and racism. Imagine for one single second the kind of NATIONAL outrage it would be if in 2003 a group of white parents wanted to barr a black teacher from teaching a european history class.

To me it is obvious your education at a "predominantly black" school suffered from a lack of diverse perspectives..

jamusta · « **Reply #68 on:** August 01, 2003, 03:18:53 PM »

Grunz we are passed that. we all agree its wrong. If you would read most of the post you would see that it has turned into a discussion about the class itself.. So no im not kidding.. Shows what you know I have been on both sides of the fence so I went from a predominatly white schools to the predominatly black schools. So maybe its you who is lacking a diverse perspective..

midnight Target · « **Reply #69 on:** August 01, 2003, 03:59:35 PM »

Is this thread still going?

Dam! Even I think these parents are nuts. Whats to discuss?

jamusta · « **Reply #70 on:** August 01, 2003, 04:06:48 PM »

MT now they are bashing the class itself...

rc51 · « **Reply #71 on:** August 01, 2003, 04:50:47 PM »

I beg you let this tread die a peaceful death:D

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #72 on:** August 01, 2003, 04:57:53 PM »

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Originally posted by jamusta
Grunz we are passed that. we all agree its wrong. If you would read most of the post you would see that it has turned into a discussion about the class itself.. So no im not kidding.. Shows what you know I have been on both sides of the fence so I went from a predominatly white schools to the predominatly black schools. So maybe its you who is lacking a diverse perspective..

LOL, you ever attended classes in sf bay area schools in the past decade? There isnt a more diverse education environment experience anywhere in america, perhaps the world...

midnight Target · « **Reply #73 on:** August 01, 2003, 04:58:03 PM »

Well of course there is a seperate line of historical study that pertains more to the Black experience... how can you argue against that? It doesn't replace standard historical study, it augments it.

Now move along... nothing to see here... just a dead thread with a blanket over its face.

jamusta · « **Reply #74 on:** August 01, 2003, 05:24:29 PM »

MT thats all I have been trying to say....
And grunz not in the last decade no but when I went to school in the hayward hills it wasnt like it is now....
I am done now....