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Offline Rutilant

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Gettin pedals, need advice.
« on: July 31, 2003, 09:37:47 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2003, 09:55:54 AM »
IMO, those are the worst pedals you could buy short of a set of Maxx pedals.  As much as I dislike the CH Pro Pedals they're muuuuuch better than the standard CH Pedals.  The ThrustMaster RCS is my choice if you can actually find them, followed closely by the Hofmann pedals.  I even like the TM Elite pedals better than the CH Pros, but I don't really care for the Elites either.


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« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2003, 09:59:04 AM »
if you can afford it get the PRO model (about $120)

they are wider apart and have toe brakes.
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« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2003, 11:52:31 AM »
Sorry, I disagree here. The "standard' CH Pedals are great IF you are aware of how they are different than most other pedals.

For aircraft, most rudder pedals are "connected," meaning that as you slide one pedal away from you, the other pedal slides towards you. In other words, it is impossible to "push in" both pedals at the same time. The CH Pro Pedals, Thurstmaster, Stimped, and so forth, are like this too.

With some of these pedals, you can also pivot each pedal down like a car's gas pedal, which means you can do two things with these pedals: steer the rudder by sliding the pedals around (left vs. right) and activate the aircraft's brakes by pressing down on the pedals with your toes (hence the name, "Toe Brakes.")

The "Standard" CH Pedals don't slide back and forth. Instead, each pedal is like a car's gas pedal, pivoting at the base. The difference is that this pivoting is used for rudder control (where other pedals are sliding). Since the pedals aren't connected, it is possible to press down both pedals completely, which translates into ZERO rudder input (the pedals "cancel" each other out).

So, why would you want these?

Here's why *I* wanted them, and bought them in 1998 and still use them today:

1. They are compact. They are between 6 inches and two feet narrower than other pedal solutions.

2. If your desk has a "modesty panel" that would smak your feet as they slide back and forth, these pedals won't get in the way.

3. I've never flown a real airplane. I have driven a real car, however, and my feet know how a pivoting pedal is supposed to feel. As such, my feet took to these pedals quickly. The "real" sliding pedals, though realistic, feel alien to me, and yes, I've used sliding pedals for extended periods of time too.

4. Though it is possible to "cancel" each pedal out by pressing on both of them at the same time, with visual feedback on the screen, it never happens with experience. Heck, after all this time, I just balance the pedals naturally with the feet. You will to.

5. If you use driving games (I do Gran Prix Legends) then these pedals will do double-duty - they are the best driving pedals, bar none.

6. They are a lot cheaper than other pedals - nice bonus.

7. Some games don't support Toe Braking anyway. I just have a button on the stick for braking.

Wow, was that long.

Anyway, as i said, as long as you are aware of why these pedals are different than what other guys have, these are fine pedals.

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« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2003, 12:11:23 PM »
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if you can afford it get the PRO model (about $120)

they are wider apart and have toe brakes.


I have CH Pro Pedals (had em over five years now). How does one go about getting toe brakes to work? Sorry for the dweebiness of the question :)

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« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2003, 12:18:10 PM »
Those standard CH pedals are just fine if you cannot afford the Pro's....one thing about CH is that they will last for years.

The only downside to those peddals is that you sit like a girlscout cause their so close together:)

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« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2003, 12:20:59 PM »
under setup / joystick in AH you goto axis control or something....

scroll down past pitch, roll, yaw, and so on to right brake and left brake.

choose right brake and look on the right side of the screen. there are the input devices, choose the CH pro pedals.

now you should see 4 different input values and if you move the pedals you will see them moe.

select the proper one for "right brake" and "set axis"

repeat for left brake. and you should be set.

when you goto the joystick setup screen again and move the toe brakes you should see a line go up and down just like your rudder or throttle or ailerons.

hope that helps.
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« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2003, 12:31:45 PM »
I have the thrustmaster elites.

I'm happy with them. Small footprint, pedals are coordianted like a real airplane, sturdy construction, good price.

Downside: TM's pots are nefarious, though I've never had any trouble. Lack of toebrakes.

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Re: Gettin pedals, need advice.
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2003, 12:40:15 PM »
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These any good?

http://shop.store.yahoo.com/digitally-unique/382505.html


I've had those since AW4W on AOL and only just recently got rid of them when I upgraded to USB controllers.

Pros:

(a) Double duty as car brake and throttle or as airplane rudder pedals.  Two controllers - One piece of hardware.

(b) Narrow width means they'll fit under most computer desks.

(c) You press them down instead of sliding them forward, so there's no knocking your knees on a lap drawer or jamming toes against the wall.

(d) Cheaper than Pro Pedals.

(e) They last forever.

(f) Since you push down instead of slide forward, the base will stay in place.

Cons:
(a) The narrow width takes some getting used to.

(b) They're gameport-based, which means you may have to adjust deadbands to allow for the distortion of the gameport.  If your current joystick is gameport-based and you have no problems, then the pedals won't cause any problems either.

(c) Easy to accidentally apply rudder if you rest your feet too heavily on them (this is really nitpicky).

Overall, they're a good piece of equipment.

For pricing, you might also try http://www.provantage.com and see how they compare.

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« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2003, 01:00:25 PM »
Disregard anyhting you have read above. The best rudder pedals you can buy (certainly better than CH) are hofmann simpeds. they are very smooth, and they are not too close together. I tried CH pedals and had to get a belt to wrap around my knees so I could relax my legs instead of continually hold them together. Dieter Hofmann can't speak a lick of english but he's a good guy. :)

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« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2003, 01:45:53 PM »
Thanks for the input..

Basically i want the best and most realistic (plane-wise) i can get.. so the.. um.. slidey pivoty thing (left forward, right back) is what i'de be lookin for? Price isnt an issue, really (anything under 150$)

So.. :confused:

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« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2003, 01:53:33 PM »
Love my CH Pro Peds.

When I did my research on various rudder pedals, I came up with a couple of criteria.  

Needed toe brakes.
Needed to be reliable.
USB connection.

CH Pro Pedals have all of these.  The TM pots apparently die quickly.  CH pedals have pots as well, but there's a 3 year warranty on the peds, so I wasn't too worried.  Pro Peds are USB, and have toe brakes.  Toe brakes don't sound like that big a deal, but they really add to the immersion of a game.  

They're affordable, too.  I think I got mine for 110 from officedepot.com.  Found it on pricewatch.

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« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2003, 02:11:06 PM »
leanin towards CH pro.. do those have a wider base than the regular?

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« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2003, 05:10:15 PM »
CH Pro pedals are about the smallest footprint pedals available. I have a set of CH Pro USB Pedals and TM Elites for use with my HOTAS Cougar. I use the TM Elites plugged into the Cougar for the few old games I play that only recognise one controlelr such as Falcon 4.0 and Flanker 2.5 but for everythign else I use the CH Pro USB Pedals. They have a smoother sliding action, feel more precise and have toe brakes which is handy even in AH for tight taxiing. If you have the money go for the CH Pro USB Pedals.

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« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2003, 05:23:13 PM »
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leanin towards CH pro.. do those have a wider base than the regular?
yes i believe so
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