Author Topic: Migs buried in the Iraqi desert (Read 914 times)

B17Skull12 · « **Reply #15 on:** August 01, 2003, 08:57:32 PM »

why didn't they use them? mig 25 if im remebering right can fly at like mach 3 that is as fast as our missles are good thing he didn't use them us air force would have lost more ppl

skull12

Chairboy · « **Reply #16 on:** August 01, 2003, 09:18:46 PM »

A Mig 25 shot down an F-18 in the first gulf war, and since it's faster then any other fighter in service, it booked out of there at like mach 2.5 or mach 3.

It's also thought of as the 'poor mans SR-71' because it has been used for high speed reconaissance runs over Isreal (clocked at over Mach 3). The story I heard is that the engines need to be replaced afterwards, but it's still cheaper then having a dedicated fleet of high speed recon planes.

Chairboy · « **Reply #17 on:** August 01, 2003, 09:27:18 PM »

Oh, one other thing, despite being to fast, it probably would not have been a super weapon against the US. It's a cool plane, but the US radar/surveillance technology is so dang advanced and comprehensive (full time AWACs in battle, advanced long range detection, etc) that this time around it would be difficult to get in range.

Ike 2K# · « **Reply #18 on:** August 01, 2003, 10:24:47 PM »

their saphire radar is JAM proof, is that true?

SOB · « **Reply #19 on:** August 01, 2003, 10:32:42 PM »

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Originally posted by 10Bears
According to SOB, “who cares”... yeah, who cares about the leader of the free world losing all credibility. ... who cares about the 3 billion a month. who cares about the one or two soldiers that get whacked everyday on this fools errand. Who cares that we lost almost all our allies.

The “gravy” SOB’s talking about might even be in jeopardy.. Rebels poking holes in pipelines every day.. only way to steal the “gravy” is by truck.

Actually, love muffin, the point was that we ousted a murderous dictator and his derranged sons. That was a good thing, IMO, and I don't give two flying f*cks about the reason we went in there in the first place. It is costing us in US lives and US money which is terrible, but I believe in the cause...liberating the people of Iraq. You can babble all day long about oil, but you said it, not me.

SOB

Chairboy · « **Reply #20 on:** August 01, 2003, 10:40:20 PM »

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their saphire radar is JAM proof, is that true?

According to a website I just found with google, yeah. That's pretty interesting, I wonder if that statement is still true. Modern ECM is pretty powerful, I hear.

http://www.wvi.com/~lelandh/mig25.html

Ike 2K# · « **Reply #21 on:** August 02, 2003, 12:18:57 AM »

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Originally posted by GScholz
The old R-40 missiles were designed to knock down huge bombers in one bang and weighed more than 1000 lbs apiece, no way that F-18 got slammed by this old monster missile.

I think this is the R-40 version that shot down F/A-18...

R-40RD or the R-40RD

The new missile R-40D and its R-40D1 update ("dorabotanaya" [more elaborate]) were produced in two variants R-40RD and R-40TD, both featuring improved countermeasures resistance and a more sensitive homing head to improve performance against low-flying targets.

for more info click http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/missile/row/aa-6.htm

Ike 2K# · « **Reply #22 on:** August 02, 2003, 01:11:36 AM »

I bet the pilot in that MiG-25 is not an Iraqi, its a "HONCHO" (a russian pilot)

MiG-25/31 never carry "Alamo"

a typical loadout for MiG-25

*R-40 Acrid
*R-23/24 Apex
*R-60 Aphid

a typical loadout for MiG-31

*R-33 Amos
*R-73 Archer
*two R-40 missiles
*Four R-60 missiles

john9001 · « **Reply #23 on:** August 02, 2003, 09:34:53 AM »

"honcho' was what the american pilots in korean war called the russian pilots who flew chinese MIG15's in secret, the russians were the only good pilots the commies had.