Author Topic: now they target hospitals (Read 577 times)

Krusher · « **on:** August 01, 2003, 03:27:10 PM »

http://story.news.yahoo.com/fc?cid=34&tmpl=fc&in=World&cat=Russia

A vehicle exploded outside a Russian military hospital near Chechnya on Friday, destroying the building, killing at least 21 people and wounding 35 others, officials said. The blast completely demolished the four-story red brick hospital in the city of Mozdok in Russia's North Ossetia region

Dowding · « **Reply #1 on:** August 01, 2003, 04:08:28 PM »

What goes around, comes around I'm afraid. The Russians were indescriminately shelling Grozny only a few years ago. I bet they hit a few hospitals, schools, apartment buildings...

The bastards killed 27,000 - and that's a Russian government estimate.

"Heaviest bombardment since WW2"

Grozny Timeline

type_char · « **Reply #2 on:** August 01, 2003, 07:37:59 PM »

Barbarians.

Pooh21 · « **Reply #3 on:** August 02, 2003, 06:11:30 AM »

LOL so they are bastards when they shell hospitals and schools and kil 27,000.

Dowding · « **Reply #4 on:** August 02, 2003, 06:47:47 AM »

There's a slight difference between total war and an armed intervention to stop a breakaway republic from gaining independence.

Still flying the Ju-88?

Pooh21 · « **Reply #5 on:** August 02, 2003, 10:16:43 AM »

I love the Ju-88, 87 too

AHGOD · « **Reply #6 on:** August 02, 2003, 10:39:22 AM »

There is also a difference between hydrogen and oxygen. Apples and oranges. War is War, attacking a hospital on purpose well that just shows what kind of war they are waging.

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #7 on:** August 02, 2003, 11:09:32 AM »

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Originally posted by Dowding
There's a slight difference between total war and an armed intervention to stop a breakaway republic from gaining independence.

That bastard Lincoln...

Dowding · « **Reply #8 on:** August 02, 2003, 01:33:58 PM »

Lincoln who?

pooh21 - you're the guy who won't fly the Lancaster because of the terror raids, but fly all the luftwaffe planes despite them bombing the crap out of London, Warsaw, Stalingrad etc etc or their tendency to bomb little towns and villages in England. And let's not forget the refugee strafing. But then everyone knows that the luftwaffe didn't hurt anyone and were all teutonic knights fighting a war against a terrible evil.

You might my distinction between total war in the 1940s and counter-revolutionary action of a superpower against a tiny state in the 1990s funny. I find your AH 'active' list and its motivations hilarious.

NUKE · « **Reply #9 on:** August 02, 2003, 01:40:58 PM »

He's talking about President Lincoln and the civil war.

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #10 on:** August 02, 2003, 02:14:55 PM »

You see, in 1860-65 an American President led an armed intervention to stop a breakaway republic from gaining independence.

I thought the parallel to be significant.

Dowding · « **Reply #11 on:** August 02, 2003, 02:21:20 PM »

That's nice...

I'm not sure what point you're making. Was there a disparity of population and territory like that between the Russian Federation and Chechnya, between the North and the South? Or perhaps you're saying Lincoln killed thousands of civilians using artillery, helicopter gunships, vacuum and fragmentation bombs? Or maybe you're saying there is no difference between total war and counter-independence intervention?

My knowledge of your civil war is quite limited, so make allowances.

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #12 on:** August 02, 2003, 02:32:42 PM »

Although it is not as good of a parallel as the American Civil War, where Atlanta was burned to the ground, Richmond was shelled for a year and virtually destroyed and half a million lives were lost in an effort that resulted in the greater good of removing slavery from America, another parallel exists with the British government and the IRA's efforts in NI.

The point is that intentionally bombing a hospital has no excuse, Robert E Lee had honor and even with the south in ruins would have never dreamed of hitting an hospital.

edit> Robert E Lee was the commanding officer of the Army of Northern Virginia and the acknowleged military leader of the Confederacy.

Dowding · « **Reply #13 on:** August 02, 2003, 04:17:01 PM »

I'd like you to find a modern day example of where the British army has done anything like what the Russians did in Chechnya, in Ireland. You'd have to go back a hundred years to find anything approaching that scale. I think you'd have to go back 200 years maybe even 300-400 years, back into the days of Cromwell. The modern day equivalent would be the Royal Artillery setting up outside Belfast and pounding it to pieces - not not very likely is it?

In the here and now, what the Russians did in 1994 is as unacceptable as the recent bombing of the hospital.

Hortlund · « **Reply #14 on:** August 02, 2003, 04:20:16 PM »

They are moslem terrorists. That is what they do. All you anti-war types should make a mental note of this and move on.