I am totally "newbie" 'd out...anyone else?

[muckmaw]

BD5-

If you really want that Falcon 4 keymap, I think I have it in my basement. I'll look tonight, and if I find it, it's yours.

I'll see if I catch you in the main arena tonight.

As for this thread, I must say, having only 6 mos. under my belt, I feel for the newbs trying to learn the game. There's alot in here to aboserb. Still no excuse for not reading the manual, or printing out the Keymap. I answer any questions I can, as long as the person isn't demanding about it. If so, then the old squelch comes on.

And when you fella's need something gooned right, forget the cherries. Call me.

8,000 ft AGL drop! *laughs*

[Kieran]

Got a feeling I know who wins tomorrow...  

[Commander rialbh]

ppls. How to shoot bullets please? Also, I need helps on shooting battle things such as tanks and planes and fighter ppls.

helps ?

[Darth Vader]

Commander, use the force to slay many ppls. j00 should go to the TA and practice $n!p3ring peeps off the runway. Try the N1K2, it is the closet thing to my Tie Fighter. You can fly with my squad for practice if you want. We fly on Tueday at 2pm because school gets out early that day.

[Curval]

Newbie here....

Superfly...thank you, thank you, thank you

You saved me alot of time posting that here!

I have just recently joined and I have found everyone here to be extremely cool and very helpful.  Understandably there is going to be animosity when a newbie jumps in and demands help without trying to find it on their own and vets cannot be faulted for that.  The difficulty is that it can be a very frustrating experience trying to do it all yourself...particularly when they ignore the message boards, which is the best resourse for any sim!

See ya up there....watch your six 'cause you don't want a newbie to kill ya!

   

[AKDejaVu]

I enjoyed the Special Olympics at A47 last night. 3 newbies bringing goons and dropping the drunks on the airfield after we had just explained that they needed to be dropped on the town. Next time they did drop on the town...1 dropped at about 8000ft, the other at about 8ft. The low load splattered, the high load took so long to get down that the town came back up and all the troops had grown long beards.

So now this thread is about FDPs?  I didn't think they let creamo and animal fly goons anymore.  They were spending too much time in back with the troops... not enough time flying.

AKDejaVu

[Apache]

Originally posted by Curval:
Newbie here....

Superfly...thank you, thank you, thank you

You saved me alot of time posting that here!

I have just recently joined and I have found everyone here to be extremely cool and very helpful.  Understandably there is going to be animosity when a newbie jumps in and demands help without trying to find it on their own and vets cannot be faulted for that.  The difficulty is that it can be a very frustrating experience trying to do it all yourself...particularly when they ignore the message boards, which is the best resourse for any sim!

See ya up there....watch your six 'cause you don't want a newbie to kill ya!

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This guy seems to fit in just nicely, wouldn't you say?

[R4M]

Originally posted by Rude:
Ram.....

 

I saw no reference in the original post regarding rude behavior. To help others out and build a stronger community is a small price to pay.

If I were new here and read this, I would form the opinion that those posting negative remarks about new players were selfish and self centered, only willing to lend a hand the way they saw fit and not help me get through the learning curve and enjoy the sim more quickly.

Nice job!    

To all of the new players...

What you see here is the bitter minority...not representative of the community...If ya need help, just ask and many will be willing to lend a hand...even if it is inconvenient.    

Is quite curious, rude,that I've never seen you offering help in #1 to someone asking to go to TA. I've gone there quite many times to help newbies to get a grip on AH. And I ain't a trainer. And is more curious that, you not doing that, you come here and drop that kind answer on me  

Face it: while most newbies are polite and their questions are OK, there is a quite good number of them who come in and start yelling and asking in caps to the four winds why do they crash the plane on take off.

 And face it, while you are in MA, you dont need to read their demands in capital letters. And much less you need the same guy popping a nice join request for the fifth time in a row after you have refused four times before.

All those things are not rare in the MA today. I personally could't care the less about the newbie yelling and demanding for help. I even don't take the work to squelch them. But I understand those who simply are fed up of that kind of dweebs. Maybe you don't understand them. But I do.

Said that, I can tell you of a good list of guys who say "hey people I'm new here, how do I take off?" (in this tone and without caps), and have a private from RAM telling them if they want to move to the TA to get some training.

 I dont dislike newbies. I dislike stupid instant-action dweebs who demand your help HERE AND NOW.

So get your facts straight next post, please   .

[edit] BTW I indeed saw a reference to rude behavior in the first post of this thread. I'm sure LePaul wasn't critizing the average newbie who asks in a normal and calm way to get some advice. Any normal question is OK for me and I usually answer them.

But for me to DEMAND instant answers in capital letters, and to send repeated requests to join another player without asking first, is rude and unpolite behavior. And I simply dont answer to any question asked in those terms, nor I offer any help if the one asking for it doesn't know how to ask it in a normal way without ordering you to help him NOW.

Maybe you've got other standards, but mine are those  [/edit]

[ 11-27-2001: Message edited by: R4M ]

[LePaul]

Umm, Rude, funny how *you* take it upon yuorself to decide who is the minority and who isn't.

I'm not out to blast the newbies, but rather, as my post and others stated, there is a right way and a wrong way to learn the game.  If you want your chat buffer full of "How do I..." 's and that sortas stuff, great!  All the power to you!  But as a paying member, it gets old for me.  And I speak for me, myself and I.  And I don't feel as though I am any sort of minority from seeing others also refer noobs to the TA and the Help Files.

But hey, you like to villanize anyone who has a differing opinion than you.  You've made that your personal crusade with your weekly award, for which I have the honor of being the first awardee of.  Whatever.  We agree to disagree, again.  

To the newbies, welcome to Aces High.  When you are ready to fly with the big boys after grasping the basics, come aboard.  People pay to play in there and appreciate you understanding the fundamentals.  

What's so unreasonable about that?

[ 11-27-2001: Message edited by: LePaul ]

[moose]

I have no problems with all the new players. Well, except for one.

Last night a player named 'Deus01' decided to get into it with me after pj and I singlehandledly took on like 5 people.

Ended up being a zeke and a spit and I left in the end of that furball. I got the zeke to auger and then there i was, 150mph at 100ft in a spitV with a spit9 right behind me at 300 yards. I thought I was toast. I chopped throttle and threw out flaps and gear as he pinged me, and *overshot*.

Lit him up with hispanos and got outta there.

Was about to throw an <S> for a great dogfight on chan 1 when I see 'what a roadkill kill'

Over the next 2 1/2 hours he proceded to insult me in just about every way possible while I went about my merry way of shooting him down. In the end he was vulching people in the TA after the main went down so I started really going after him. He was crying about reporting me to HTC when IMO his language and attitude in both the MA and TA was horrible. Hah. I begged him to report me on the BBS so we could have a real solid winner for Rude's contest.

If every newbie came into the arena like Deusie boy, I'd drop my AH account in a second. Thank god most of em are normal, because most of the fun in this game is the comraderie between pilots. He didn't piss me off (I wish I could say the same for him; Moose 4, Deus01 0  ) but he sure did get the entire arena riled.

[Hening]

My only question is how can someone named "Rude" be so politically correct?  That handle needs to get passed along to someone that earns it ;-)

Substitutes:
lambchp
tchyfely
wrmnfzy

LOL

Hening
416 RCAF

[Rude]

LePaul....

   

To the newbies, welcome to Aces High. When you are ready to fly with the big boys after grasping the basics, come aboard. People pay to play in there and appreciate you understanding the fundamentals.

Big Boys?

Ya know...as I read these boards at times throughout my day, I very very rarely ever read anything that makes me laugh out loud.
The beforementioned did the trick.

The facts are as follows:

A small minority posts on this board in comparison to the entire AH community.

Of that small minority, an even smaller minority acts like a pompous turd and criticizes new players for behavior thats normal when thrown into an enviroment like AH.

Anyone ever teach you about first impressions?

If bein a Big Boy means you take a condescending attitude towards those who might need some help, then post about it on an open forum where new guys can read about it, then I think I would prefer to fly with the newbies and shoot down all of the Big Boys    

****Attention Newbies****

In the interest of being civil and helpful to those who might need help, please feel free to contact me anytime while online if you have a question. Myself or my squad would be glad to help if not busy shooting down the Big Boys!

   

[ 11-27-2001: Message edited by: Rude ]

[beet1e]

Something else that needs to be considered is that players migrating from other flight sims may not have access to a HELP document that’s as good as the Aces High HELP application.  I came across from WB, and found the help on offer there from iEN was deplorable. The only way to find out which side a city was on, when all the fields around it had been captured, was to fly there and see if you got shot at!

My advice is to alert the newbies to the existence of the HELP application. Some from other flight sims will be pleasantly surprised.

[Pongo]

Moose
"Last night a player named 'Deus01' decided to get into it with me after pj and I singlehandledly took on like 5 people.
"
I dont think that singlehandedly means what you think it means...

I think that the new people that I have run into are fine. They are no different then new guys have always been and will allways be.

Most interesting one I met showed me what fresh thought can do.
I thought I was dealing with a total turd cause he was following my lanc shooting at like 1.8k or so. So I let him go not having much tail ammo in a lanc. Suddenly I am getting hammered. I shot him down but most everything on the plane was red. He killed me at 1.2 or so.
I asked him to check his connect he said it was fine. I checked mine It was fine..
We start talking and he tells me he was shooting his 13mm way above me till he saw a hit and then oppend up with his 3 20mm..(109)

I laughed. He had gotten me with indirect fire. a mg151/20 kill at over 1 k.( I got him actually but it was defiantly a kill. I was down to 1 engine, no elevator, no top or rear turret and pilot wounded.

New guys are fine.
They bring energy and wonder to the game and make us rethink some things that we might have come to blindly accept.


Learn something new every day.

[Flossy]

Originally posted by Rude:
LePaul....

Big Boys?

Yeah.... and what about the Big Girls!???