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Offline WldThing

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« Reply #15 on: August 09, 2003, 07:07:50 PM »
Id have to disagree with you that they were good barrel roll(s), it was more of one barrel roll.

Any movie IMO is a good movie,  sadly i cant say i have any where i end up living, but i do what i do cause i enjoy it ;)

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« Reply #16 on: August 09, 2003, 07:34:26 PM »
Beet1e, am I misreading this?

What I got out of it was:  I kill a lot of p51 pilots who have High K/D's.


I'm wondering who these p51 pilots are.


Did I misread the post?
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« Reply #17 on: August 09, 2003, 07:39:32 PM »
Steve. I'm not sure either, now that I reread Bug's post. Bug is Dutch, and while the Dutch nearly all speak excellent English, sometimes a misplaced word can change an entire sentence.
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« Reply #18 on: August 09, 2003, 07:59:55 PM »
My apologies Beet1e.

I'm glad your having a good time in the G10.

Havin a good time is what it's all about.

You were sharing, and that's a good thing also.

Arguing with you is a reflex reaction that didn't have a place in this post.

Cya's up.

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« Reply #19 on: August 09, 2003, 08:07:31 PM »
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My apologies Beet1e.

I'm glad your having a good time in the G10.

Havin a good time is what it's all about.

You were sharing, and that's a good thing also.

Arguing with you is a reflex reaction that didn't have a place in this post.

Cya's up.

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Hehe, no problem. Yes, sharing, because then the other guys can help me out.

Oddly enough, I did see you just before logging off. Then I realised how late it was. But it's too hot to sleep. We've had about 10-12 days of temps around 35° (95 to you). I blame Revvin's new CPU. ;)

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« Reply #20 on: August 09, 2003, 11:11:28 PM »
109s are great, but G10s are LA7s for Luftweenies.
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« Reply #21 on: August 10, 2003, 12:18:04 AM »
try 109F-4. it has the speed and climb of the 109G-2 and it feels like spit14 when you turn fight with it. when you see 109F-4 I hope some of you wont confuse the 109F-4  to 109G-10.
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« Reply #22 on: August 10, 2003, 03:23:21 AM »
I didn't bother reading your latest novel, beetle, as I'm sure it's quite similar to your previous pats on your own back. The G10 is better than the P51 1v1 anyway, if you ask me.
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« Reply #23 on: August 10, 2003, 07:28:39 AM »
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I didn't bother reading your latest novel, beetle, as I'm sure it's quite similar to your previous pats on your own back. The G10 is better than the P51 1v1 anyway, if you ask me.
ROFL!  It's a pat on the back for the G10. I have no skill, and it's the plane that counts.

Bluedog - as soon as you likened the G10 to an LA7, I found I could no longer fly it!  Switched to the G6 today. You know the most frustrating thing about AH is being in a 1-v-many fight and watching the many dweebs make basic errors in their P51s (flat turns after merge) and not being able to engage because if you do, his buddy will do his job for him. Numbers, numbers, numbers...

In a 1-v-many, I don't think there's any shame in using alt. So here's another film of me against two LA7, two 190, a N1K, a MOSS... hehe, no-one can call me timid! Both the 190s got suckered into ropes. The film starts just at the horizontal merge with the first 190 - did he try for the HO? He stalled, moments before his death. The second one tried to follow my zoom - lol - see for yourself. And then I left the film running so you could see the LA7 chasing me. 2K below me and spraying from 2100 yards - LOL! See Zanth's quote in my sig.

They had a goon on the ground waiting for the last building to be taken out. Instinct made me want to save the field, but of course my alt was gone. Tried to engage a low TYPH, but that used a lot of E. Could have succeeded 1-v-1, but the LA7s were still around. Oh well...

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« Reply #24 on: August 10, 2003, 09:28:37 AM »
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Originally posted by BUG_EAF322
Every tour my most kills are stangs with mostly a high k/d on them.


I took it to mean that every tour not only does he kill more stangs than any other plane, but his k/d against them is usually high as well.

Nopoop - was glad to see you apologize.

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« Reply #25 on: August 10, 2003, 10:11:29 AM »
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I took it to mean that every tour not only does he kill more stangs than any other plane, but his k/d against them is usually high as well.

Nopoop - was glad to see you apologize.


Going back through tour 38, Beet1e's record against the P-51D stands at 119/34. That's a very respectable 3.5/1 K/D.

Let's put that in perspective.

For the current tour against the P-51D,
Bishops: 4377/5686    0.77/1 K/D
Knights: 3478/2686    1.29/1 K/D
Rooks: 3429/2257     1.52/1 K/D

Overall 1.19/1 K/D vs the P-51D

So, Beet1e's K/D vs the P-51D is far above the average.

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« Reply #26 on: August 10, 2003, 01:00:48 PM »
The P51 will win vs a G10 on deck fites if the p51 dude knows how to use flaps and do roll reversals...

The G10 dude will win if he is slow enough to get 1 notch flap out on flat turns and to avoid scissors.

It's a close matchup any way you look at it.

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« Reply #27 on: August 10, 2003, 01:38:34 PM »
Hiya Widewing... we were talking about Bug's success against P51's.  :)
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« Reply #28 on: August 10, 2003, 01:39:39 PM »
Thanks, Nash. This is actually pretty interesting.... how people can interpret the exact same sentence so very differently.
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« Reply #29 on: August 10, 2003, 01:49:19 PM »
Wetrat likes the G10 over the 51.  Others here do as well.  Another interesting idea, and one that would probably make for great debate fodder.
I, personally like the 51's chances on the deck against a G10.
At very fast speeds, the pony handles much better than the G10.
In the intermediate speed range they seem to handle about the same.(G10 climb and accell advantage noted)  Slow things down and I again give the edge to the pony.  On the deck, slow and close, I'd much rather  be in the pony.
I was surprised to see sirloin mention that a g10 can out-turn a pony when speeds get low.  Heck, when I'm fighting a g10 in my pony, the slower the better.  Never had one come close to out-turning me.
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