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Offline FT_Animal

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« Reply #30 on: August 16, 2003, 04:46:21 PM »
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Yay... WTFG!!  Run them pointless suicide runs that only make you look like a bunch of dorks who can't fight your way out of a wet paper-bag.  WTFG!!  You ROCK.. everyone know's expending ordnance and wasting time climbing to 20k just to suicide fuel at a base rather than engage in defense of the country in a proactive manner is the way to go!!  WOO HOO... WTFG...GOOD JOB!!  Keep porking that fuel... Keep forcing the bad guys to back up, and load up in P-51's and since they have the time.. climb to 20k also and wreak the same havok they would have anyway...OH YA!!.. GOOD JOB, WTFG!!!!    :rolleyes:


Whatta ya MEAN!!!,....... it takes a LOT of skill to hold that plane perfectly straight in a 20k drop and not miss the target. Sheeeesh



find yourself, find your comfort zone,... that's it............ good boy!!

I hate those lamers too



you're stirring the pot in the wrong direction,.... counter clockwise.
and don't splash.

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« Reply #31 on: August 16, 2003, 07:19:20 PM »
It aint the porking fuel that perterbs me... it's the lame method they go about it.... the Suicide run.  And saying "well I TRY to surive" as a response doesn't make it any less a suicide run.  A few folks (FEW) can get in, kill all the fuel or a majority of it and sruvive.  Far more die in the process... Acks not quite strong enough to keep the fuel halfway safe, but good enough to kill the pilot in the process.

The suicide "oh golly I'm gonna affect the war" mentality just drives more lame gameplay, even a Spit at 25% has enough to get in the nearest fight, which in itself is just another suicide run.

Honestly... my k/d ratio improves drasticly when I'm forced to back up.  So in a way, I should appreciate the lame-o-suicide-porkers.  If I can get in the fight quicker... I will.  If not, I apply a little patience, load up a Jug or Pony or whatever with lotsa gas and still show up with enough left over to bag a number of kills AND get home.

So why do I care?... I hate gamey lame-o-suicide-porkers.  Not for their lack of effort, but their loss of "SIM" in the "SIMulation".
« Last Edit: August 16, 2003, 07:24:14 PM by Tumor »
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« Reply #32 on: August 16, 2003, 07:26:45 PM »
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It doesn't bother me, but I understand why it does some people.  I think it's mostly because death means nothing in this game.  When these people strat fuel/radar/barracks, they often don't even attempt to fly back to base.  That would take to long.  They crash, then go back to what they were doing.  It isn't the stratting, it's the suiciding that ticks people off.  Most of the players that actually get into the spirit of the game don't like suiciding regardless of the target.


It isn't the cherry-pickers that are bothered by porked fuel, they take off at backwards bases anyway. But they might complain about suicide tactics although it doesn't affect them.

The furballers are suicide flyers of their own, just somewhat different than the strat fliers. They do complain about porked fuel, not suicide.

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« Reply #33 on: August 16, 2003, 07:34:32 PM »
Hmmm... I wonder how feasible it would be to make attrition part of the scoring equation for a reset. Meybe the more deaths the winning country has, the fewer perks they get. Conversely, you could award those perks to the losing country. It wouldn't stop the hardcore suicide dweeb. But, it might get the perk monkeys really annoyed with 'em :D.
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« Reply #34 on: August 16, 2003, 07:38:15 PM »
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Last time I tried a resupply on Trinity to a small field with 25% fuel, I made 4 successful trips and the fuel remained at 25%. About an hour of my time. I flew the last two because I just couldn't believe the first two hadn't changed anything.

I asked around and was told it would take 7 trips.


The sad thing is that player resupply seems to depend on whether the field is in friendly or enemy zone.

I might be wrong...

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« Reply #35 on: August 16, 2003, 07:44:36 PM »
You are right. One more reason not to totally trash a field you are trying to take. The only way to get 'em back up with any speed is to capture the zone primary. Otherwise, they come back up at the same rate a friendly field does if the city and factories are toasted.
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« Reply #36 on: August 16, 2003, 10:06:37 PM »
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Like they only do it when they are being ganged by two countries. But it is a valid way to slow down the enemy. I think the point is that it's too easy. Try to focus.


My reply was specifically in responce to Bug and Tumor.  I hate it when a good furball is ruined by porked fuel too, but this "they think differently than me, therefor they're dipsh*ts and ruining EVERYONE's fun" bit is getting old.  You're right, it'd be nice to either make it harder to pork the fuel, or a bit easier to restore it to at least 50%.


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« Reply #37 on: August 16, 2003, 10:33:04 PM »
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We're thinking of getting Barry Sadler out of retirement to sing this at the memorial service.........


If you're going to ask him, you'll need a Ouija board. He died in the VA hospital in Nashville in 1989 after being shot in the head while riding in a taxi in Guatemala City.

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« Reply #38 on: August 16, 2003, 10:47:53 PM »
Oops. Didn't know that.. thanks. Guess we'll pass on him then.
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« Reply #39 on: August 16, 2003, 11:50:07 PM »
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My reply was specifically in responce to Bug and Tumor.  I hate it when a good furball is ruined by porked fuel too, but this "they think differently than me, therefor they're dipsh*ts and ruining EVERYONE's fun" bit is getting old.  You're right, it'd be nice to either make it harder to pork the fuel, or a bit easier to restore it to at least 50%.


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Well... that would be a good call.  But, they aren't capable of what we call thought anyway :D
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« Reply #40 on: August 17, 2003, 12:08:52 AM »
LOL, you're a bastard.  I like that.


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« Reply #41 on: August 17, 2003, 01:42:15 AM »
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Sorry guys, I've never seen the pilot or uber jabo capable of doing this at a busy frontline base.>>

Well, you have see nothing :)
Uber jabo ?  There are enough guys who
do this eating pizza with the left hand :)
Add to this two passes to deack the field
and these 15 min make them less than
5, and you have the picture of a normal
day of a good jaboer :)
Ofcourse if the lalas & spits have good
sticks maby some times you eat dust,
but all these are part of the life of the
jaboer.
All these IF you succed to pass until the
enmy field ofcourse :)

You first take the acks. If you look at
the maps more of the acks are in a near straight line parallel to the runway. You start with the bombs on the 2 acks who are far from the line with 1 pass. 2nd pass you take the 1 parallel 3nd pass you take the other.
Here i use guns. After clean from acks
you take fuell with 1 rocket each and you can have some vulch with the remaining gun ammo :)
To succeed with 2-3 lalas or spits LOW
(if lalas are high thats another story)
after 2-3 loops you must take back some E (distance + alt ) and return.
All these in a medium field not well protected.
To be serius its a little difficult and need some practise, but in a good day
with good reflects it can be done.
If the field has many cons to defend it you need 2-3 vulchers to hund the cons when you do the job.
I usually use Pony and start dive from
17-18k with 60-70d ancle.
I dont play the super jabo pilot here :)
I just say my opinion how can be done.
I know some pilots who i Know they CAN do it, even if Maby they dont know
it :) like Fariz, Joc, Dadrabit :)

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« Reply #42 on: August 17, 2003, 01:43:16 AM »
ive made a break through on porking. just kill there hangars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! now is that so hard? can do with 1 buff of b17's:D :D :D :D
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« Reply #43 on: August 17, 2003, 07:02:58 AM »
I tend to the strat side, so I'm probably one of those about whom the OP is complaining. I can take my Tiffie (oohhh...) and completely down a vehicle base - rockets for the hangar, cannon for everything else. For airfields I prefer a C205 for the greater ammo capacity. Plus, it's not seen as a threat and so tends to get ignored until it's too late. Hehehe. I actually like de-acking. It makes bombing and vulching easier. Usually I survive; sometimes I don't.  A real problem is the one-hit kill on the tiffie's engine.

I do think that the way fuel is set up could be better.

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« Reply #44 on: August 17, 2003, 11:26:32 AM »
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Sorry guys, I've never seen the pilot or uber jabo capable of doing this at a busy frontline base.>>



He meant in real life.

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