Author Topic: Serious Whine (Read 1366 times)

MAJ KONIG · « **on:** August 18, 2003, 01:14:35 AM »

What is going on? I was in a 190 last night, zoom'd an enemy field when a P38 passed me turned around and caught my 190. This is total crap and he caught me in like 3 secs, closed on me like he was a 262. Something is definately wrong because this isn't the first time it has happened. Oh, and BTW he didn't come from superior alt and made a flat turn at that! Then this same guy comes at me in a A6M that just left the field I was in a P38 at 4K above him and he climbed up and shot my P38 how can this happen. I thought maybe this game was better than WB because noone cheats but maybe Iam wrong.

BenDover · « **Reply #1 on:** August 18, 2003, 03:50:28 AM »

record a film and send it to htc if you suspect someone is a cheat.

Kweassa · « **Reply #2 on:** August 18, 2003, 04:11:24 AM »

Ditto.

I can think of at least four or five 'methods' of how what you described can be done. Especially a timely low-yoyo and a good snap-shot.

Airscrew · « **Reply #3 on:** August 18, 2003, 07:41:44 PM »

Lag, and not paying attention.

Dead Man Flying · « **Reply #4 on:** August 19, 2003, 08:25:25 AM »

The lead turn is not your friend.

-- Todd/Leviathn

BUG_EAF322 · « **Reply #5 on:** August 19, 2003, 08:55:05 AM »

u changing to often from plane type.
don't build to much on what u think a plane should do
never think its gonna be easy

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #6 on:** August 20, 2003, 10:34:38 PM »

I find it kind of funny when one person thinks just because he might be fast that there is no way the other guy on his six could be just as fast if not faster. Did you stop to think that maybe the P-38 had just leveled out from a dive and had a huge amount of E to burn and that's how he caught up to you to finish you off with a lead turn?

I'm sorry to say but there is no way a Zero/Zeke could take off from a field and immediately zoom up to you and shoot you down like you described. More than likely you had your eyes inside the cockpit and not looking around and didn't see the guy take a few minutes to climb up to you until he shot you down or you weren't at 4,000ft like you thought.

The problem I see here is not of someone cheating but of someone that doesn't have a very good grasp of situation awareness.

Instead of blaming someone else for cheating maybe you should seek ways to improve your SA so you don't get yourself into those situations. 99.99999999% of the time, the one who cries "Cheater" is just someone that got outflown and outfought.

Ack-Ack

MAJ KONIG · « **Reply #7 on:** August 21, 2003, 10:43:59 AM »

Well, I could take some responsiblity that maybe I wasn't paying attention ecept that I observed the P38 before I started my run he was approximately 2K above the town and approximately d3.8 from me I was at full speed when I went into the dive, I did not turn, when I leveled out my dive over the field the P38 tried a angled HO on me but was way outta position and flew past me. I watched him the whole time. He conducted a flat turn came around on my six and killed me. Now I normally wouldn't have a problem except that my 190 was going approximately 450 MPH and I just hit WEP to get outta there. Now from my flying experience when you conduct a flat turn you bleed off your "E". So, how can a P38 who just bleed off some "E" turn and catch a 190 with a full head of steam. I just don't see it Now, at least we can agree ACK ACK that an A6M should not be able to climb up to a leveled out P38 and kill it. Which is why I posted it. It shouldn't happen. Maybe we can assume that there was another A6M except that I had a squaddie with me who confirmed that there was only one. Now don't get me wrong I am not saying someone is cheating there's probly a perfect explaination for it. Maybe I was lagging dought it though considering Iam running between 70 to 80 frame rate. So, maybe someone was testing a new beta version of the A6M, you've heard of it the A6M109G10 for AH2. Anyway, who cares I feel better just posting about it and thats all that matters to me

BenDover · « **Reply #8 on:** August 21, 2003, 11:02:43 AM »

what was your ping in ms then?

MAJ KONIG · « **Reply #9 on:** August 21, 2003, 12:42:11 PM »

I don't exactly remember Ben but what I've been running lately has been anywhere from 70 to 93 at the highest.

Mathman · « **Reply #10 on:** August 21, 2003, 01:15:05 PM »

Well, regardless of anything else, there isn't a single plane in AH that is faster than a bullet.

icemaw · « **Reply #11 on:** August 21, 2003, 01:28:55 PM »

I cant tell you how many times I have seen that happen. Flying along lvl at 300mph. Have somebody dive down pass below me. Pull a big immelman. Where he extends 2 3k above me. As I watch the distance click off like 1.0 1.7 3.0 4.0. Then he puts his nose down and catches me like I am standing still. Now if I was turning or something I could understand it. But I am straight lvl doing 300 the enmy pulls this big manouver blowing all his E the catches me like hes jet powered. I cant say anyone is cheating but is this is some trick move I sure would like to learn it.

Furious · « **Reply #12 on:** August 21, 2003, 02:39:34 PM »

Icemaw, an airplane that is climbing is not "blowing" E. E is not only speed.

There is potential energy and kinetic energy, by climbing you are traiding your kinetic for potential.

icemaw · « **Reply #13 on:** August 21, 2003, 02:53:34 PM »

Yes I know but we passed HO the bog dove under me. I kept flying in a straight line. He pulled up blowing all his speed converting his E then caught me while all the time I have been motoring away at 300mph.

MAJ KONIG · « **Reply #14 on:** August 21, 2003, 03:03:41 PM »

wouldn't there still be a lose of E? Maybe not a big dramatic one?I don't think the exchange rate between the two are equal enough to add up to whats being experienced in the arena. Which could be fixed with a little perameter adjustment. One reason I say that because I don't see it happening with every plane just a few certian types regardless who the pilot is.