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Offline beet1e

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Woot-woot! widdly-widdly... 109F4
« on: August 18, 2003, 06:42:55 PM »
Funny how starting off at the top the range and working downwards makes you appreciate the lower models more...

Have spent hours buggering about in 109G6/G10, and while these are good sneak planes, and good for roping noobs, in a 1v1 fight against a competent pilot, the manoeuvrability just isn't there, and deflection shots with the spud cannon? - forget it.

So I've moved down to the 109F4. Woohoo!  Still a good climb rate, and... manoeuvrability - always feels good to whack P51s and LA7s. Must be a good plane - got a 16/2 k/d. Note for the simple minds: that's a k/d for this plane only - not an overall k/d.

109F4 - well balanced for the needs of the late-war-monster dominated MA, without being an überplane itself.

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« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2003, 06:59:29 PM »
damn you've found my plane.


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« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2003, 07:02:41 PM »
Biggest problem with the 109F4 is that it is completely dominated by the Spit 9 and N1K2.  You lose the ability to out-climb/run them, and you still can't quite keep up with them in a dogfight.  It is a good plane for killing over-agressive P-51/La7 pilots in, although cautious ones can E-fight you with impunity and run if they lose the advantage.  Second biggest problem is the guns suck.. you'll be the king of assists if you stay in it.

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« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2003, 07:09:30 PM »
i either out turn them and slap them with cannon or HO and aim for the engine.works everytime to. i HO get 1 ping on engine i check 6 see he is smoke and im off to get the con. 2 mins later "system:you have killed xxxxxxx #xx"just keep doing that until i die


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« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2003, 07:34:52 PM »
Hey, if going head-on works for you thats great.  I personally wouldn't want to joust with 4x20mm or 2 Hispanos with only 1 20mm and 2 peashooters.  Besides...  if they don't go for the head-on what do you do then?

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« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2003, 07:38:14 PM »
Beet1e, kepe flyin rook.  i'llpick the pesky ones off your 6 like ticks off a hound.
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« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2003, 07:44:33 PM »
i bring the 2 extra 20mms with me.
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« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2003, 07:46:48 PM »
I love the F-4, its a poorman's spit 14 (in turnfights) and its a stripped down G-2.

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« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2003, 08:23:17 PM »
109f4 and gondies.... never leave home w/o 'em...

hell i fly all the 109's with gondies anyway despite the perf hit (top end usually) on the 109g series.
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Re: Woot-woot! widdly-widdly... 109F4
« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2003, 08:37:56 PM »
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and deflection shots with the spud cannon? - forget it.

 


NOOB!  :rolleyes: :D

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« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2003, 08:40:31 PM »
109F4 is a fun plane, I need to fly them more. Most guys in the main arena arent good at idenifing wich 109 your in. F4 can turn pretty good but I like the G2 little better I think.

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« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2003, 09:29:39 PM »
i still remember the video interview from a janes flying sim with Gunter Rall (spelling) as he was saying he absolutly hated having to fly with gondolas as it severly disturbed the flight characteristics of the 109, and in a high g it would rip right off.

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« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2003, 09:41:56 PM »
if only it had a 30mm cannon...

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« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2003, 01:05:39 AM »
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if only it had a 30mm cannon...


I wish G2 had the 30mm... Then it would be an evil death monster... Imagine the G2 with a 30mm and no stupid 7.92mm cowl guns and their ammo as dead weight...  :)

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Woot-woot! widdly-widdly... 109F4
« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2003, 02:38:34 AM »
109 f-4 is fun (as long as you appreciate your gonna die more often in the MA)

Its good to surprise people in a turn fight when they are expecting a g-10 :D

and its biggest bonus is its a perk potato :D

Skull12 i think you should take Urchin into the DA and teach him how to fly 109's as you are obviously the 109 f-4 master. :rolleyes: