Notice the increase of the WB's Style Defensive Manuevers?

[wells]

I'm not sure what ur getting at Deja,

At 200, it should be possible to generate enough lift to support the weight of the plane, either upright or inverted.  Induced drag is the same, as Pyro stated.  Profile drag on the wing might be higher, but how much would it affect climb?  Overall drag is somewhere around 1/4 of the thrust value, profile drag is about 1/2 of that, so even if profile drag doubled for inverted flight, we're only talking about maybe a 10-15% increase in overall drag and you'd still be able to get 95-97% of the climb rate.

Climb rate = (Thrust-Drag)/mass * Velocity

Do you really wanna argue over 150 fpm?  I can walk faster than that...

Daff, what airfoils are used on the planes you fly?  Can you find out?  I think the Citabria uses a clark-y, which is 6% camber and 12% thickness, one of the worst airfoils for inverted flight.  Not saying you fly one of the those, but you can't use that as something to go by...

[AKDejaVu]

When inverted... what speed is necessary to maintain level inverted flight?  Minimum?

AKDejaVu

[juzz]

How long is a piece of rope?

[wells]

 

When inverted... what speed is necessary to maintain level inverted
                 flight? Minimum?

Anywhere from 10-50% greater than upright, depending on airfoils.  If the plane stalls at 100 mph upright, then anywhere from 110-150 mph inverted.  I tested a few planes offline and they all seemed to be in the ballpark...I think Pyro has done his homework.

[Nash]

*THWACK*..... as the ball is sent blistering over the net and back in to the other court...

[AKDejaVu]

Anywhere from 10-50%?

Awe.. come on.. you can do better than that.

Once you do.. explain how I can maintain a 2.2k-3.0k fpm climb inverted at 100?

AKDejaVu

[This message has been edited by AKDejaVu (edited 09-22-2000).]

[Skorpyon]

Deja... to do that you have to hold your breath and lift your feet off the rudder pedals, but it only works on Tuesdays and Thursdays during daylight hours.  I don't have the exact formulae available on this, but saw it published in a flight journal somewhere... err.. maybe it was on a cocktail napkin somewhere... somebody pass me another beer and get that damn sheep on the barbeque.
 

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~900th Bloody Jaguars~
"Feel the Sting......"

[Daff]

Yes, I have a fixation with inverted flight (And I've been on HS's back about it a lot too)...and it's mainly because of those silly neg-G maneuvers that are now also very evident in AH.

As for some inverted maneuvers not being possible in AH, it's more to do with limited elevator travel than the wings. (At least that's my theory ).

Daff

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"This is Yardstick. Follow me"

[wolf37]

hi all:

I have a problem with all the aircraft in this game. when I fly it would br nice to have a litle music, but I can'nt fit the panio in the cockpit.




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[ibreh]

i was very close to say that the simplest solution is to bring back the FM of 1.03  .
maybe a second goodie would be that some of the new guys who only can be remembered because of there bad attitude will leave.


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ibreh
332nd Flying Mongrels