Author Topic: Iraq Terrorism (Read 2070 times)

Frogm4n · « **Reply #45 on:** August 24, 2003, 02:07:08 PM »

eagler are you still trying to find a justification for this war?

NUKE · « **Reply #46 on:** August 24, 2003, 02:24:44 PM »

It's easy to justify this war.

1. Iraq started it by invading Kuwait

2. Iraq was kicked out of Kuwait and hostilities stopped after Iraq signed the cease fire agreements.

3. Iraq never complied with cease fire agreements, thus the resumption .

Iraq could have prevented this war from the very begining and up to nearly the final stages. Iraq is to blame for it's own actions Frogman. I know it's hard for a Liberal to understand that the world's peace isn't based only around words and treaties and unlimited chances to comply with them.

Frogm4n · « **Reply #47 on:** August 24, 2003, 02:27:49 PM »

an occupation without our allies help wasnt the correct choice either. You have to remember all france and germany disagreed with was the timetable.

Martlet · « **Reply #48 on:** August 24, 2003, 03:42:31 PM »

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Originally posted by Frogm4n
an occupation without our allies help wasnt the correct choice either. You have to remember all france and germany disagreed with was the timetable.

So? They disagree with bathing and sanctions, too, but that doesn't mean the rest of the world has to.

threedays · « **Reply #49 on:** August 24, 2003, 05:19:26 PM »

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Originally posted by Stringer
I don't think you can make this as a blanket statement, Orel.

Look at Libya as an example.

During the 80's it was one of the most vocal at being a terrorist supporting state.

We dealt with them on the known level, (i.e. brute force), and probably we dealt with them through more backwater diplomatic initiatives as well.

Point being that we dealt with them on both levels, showing them that we can act with brute force when needed.

These days, Libya is not the terrorist sponsoring state it once was. Hell, Qaddafy has even offered to help in the struggles with Al Qaeda.

Orel, as hard as it is to understand, sometimes no matter how you deal with a group, they will still do "evil" things.

A perfect example would be how the Germans were dealt with in the '30's. The thought was appeasement would placate the Reich government. It didn't.

This example cannot be brushed away as irrelevant, either. It is completely relevant to your arguement.

It was prove that Libya support tesrrorist and they deny to cooperate....

when exactly did US prove that there are terrorist in Iraq, where exactly did they apply to give them to US, where exactly did Iraq declied to give them ?

There were sanctionson on libya by UN as well ... in iraq you have no support by UN...

so i dont think that Iraq is similary situation like Libya

threedays · « **Reply #50 on:** August 24, 2003, 05:21:40 PM »

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Originally posted by -tronski-
Its easy...

Freedom fighters, Guerillas, partisans etc are terrorists who you support

terrorists are freedom fighters, partisans, guerillas you don't.

Tronsky

hehe good to see that someone still use head here

threedays · « **Reply #51 on:** August 24, 2003, 05:22:20 PM »

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Originally posted by NUKE
It's easy to justify this war.

and how will you justify ocupation ?

Martlet · « **Reply #52 on:** August 24, 2003, 06:26:05 PM »

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Originally posted by threedays
It was prove that Libya support tesrrorist and they deny to cooperate....

when exactly did US prove that there are terrorist in Iraq, where exactly did they apply to give them to US, where exactly did Iraq declied to give them ?

There were sanctionson on libya by UN as well ... in iraq you have no support by UN...

so i dont think that Iraq is similary situation like Libya

Catching abu abbas IN a terrorist training camp enough proof for me.

As for justifying the occupation, I must have missed the memo saying we'd run everything past you before we did it.

Martlet · « **Reply #53 on:** August 24, 2003, 06:34:27 PM »

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Originally posted by GScholz
And where exactly did you find him? ... Oh, that's right, in Kurdish held territory. Nice friends you guys have down there.

When did the kurds control Baghdad?

Nice try.

Replicant · « **Reply #54 on:** August 24, 2003, 07:34:04 PM »

I pity our soldiers in Iraq. With terrorism/urban combat it's almost too difficult to defend against. Most Brit's are fully aware of terrorism having put up with the IRA over the last 30 odd years. It wasn't just the bombs and killings, but the false alarms too which all take their toll.

One thing I am curious to know though, and I don't mean this in a detrimental way, I would really like to know if people in NY (Irish American/sympathizers) have stopped collecting for the IRA? There are some people that always manage to detach themselves from terrorism but the most promising thing about it today is that, almost, all countries realise the growing threat and that by working together we can try and put an end to it all. Don't think it will ever happen entirely but I'm sure most terrorist groups will think again. I'm sure Libya did think again!

Martlet · « **Reply #55 on:** August 25, 2003, 12:27:50 AM »

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Originally posted by GScholz
Terrorist training camp in Baghdad? ROFL! Good one!

ROFL at yourself all you want, then check any news source and see where he was captured. Right outside Baghdad, laughing boy.

Go practice your reading comprehension.

Martlet · « **Reply #56 on:** August 25, 2003, 01:11:56 AM »

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Originally posted by GScholz
Was there a terrorist training camp there?

you catch on quick!

Martlet · « **Reply #57 on:** August 25, 2003, 02:05:01 AM »

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Originally posted by GScholz
But you don't apparently. Abu Abbas was hiding in Iraq, as was the notorious terrorist Abu Nidal until last year when the Iraqi's caught him and killed him (although they reported it as suicide, lol). There was no terrorist training camp anywhere near Baghdad you fool, you would expect the reporters and foreign businessmen to notice the AK47s firing down the range, lol the idea of a terrorist training camp in the Capital of the country is beyond stupid, and even Hussein wasn't that gone in the head. Every camp that has been uncovered has been in the Kurdish controlled (i.e. not Iraqi controlled) North.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/gunning/interviews/khodada.html

keep yapping. Even the liberal rags ran the story. Your hole is getting pretty deep, want me to order you a backhoe?

Martlet · « **Reply #58 on:** August 25, 2003, 02:20:41 AM »

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Originally posted by GScholz
Suuuuuure. You got more than this mans story to back up that claim? I mean, your troops are swarming all over Baghdad ... have they found any terrorist training camps?

You would think FOXnews would have mentioned a terrorist training camp.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,84265,00.html

You'd better order that backhoe for yourself, looks like you're going to need it.

Ahhh, that's right. I forgot how you Liberals are. People who have BEEN there, don't count. You know much more.

Martlet · « **Reply #59 on:** August 25, 2003, 02:30:06 AM »

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Originally posted by GScholz
Ah, I forgot how you ultra right-wing extremists are like. Evidence, who needs evidence? This nice Iraqi isn't trying to cover his own donut ... he's our friend! And we only need the word of one man to kill people in the name of freedom and justice. Nice.

A reason? We don't need a reason.

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