Author Topic: Marine shoots himself........so he wont get deployed (Read 1240 times)

Inferno · « **Reply #15 on:** August 21, 2003, 03:59:37 PM »

He joined the military but didn't want to be deployed, to Hawaii of all places?

He should have given himself a self-vasectonomy while he had the gun.

jamusta · « **Reply #16 on:** August 21, 2003, 05:36:14 PM »

They will burn him good. Hes gonna get all sorts of charges. When the marine corps coutmartials a marine they find everything you are doing wrong. From being late to not paying bills. the one guaranteed charge will be conduct unbecoming a marine.

AWMac · « **Reply #17 on:** August 21, 2003, 11:49:12 PM »

UCMJ will take care of his prettythang... What a fool, moron, idiot... Bet his parents are really proud of his dumbprettythang. Maybe he shoulda been in the Coast Guard?

Fishu · « **Reply #18 on:** August 22, 2003, 01:49:29 AM »

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Originally posted by Martlet
My first reaction was "ok, we'll try to guess which soldiers are going to shoot themselves, then boot them from the military" but I realized that was next to impossible.

My second reaction was "if you're so imbalanced that you'd shoot yourself to "get out of" going to Hawaii, then a self-inflicted gunshot wound is probably the best thing for you".

As any logical person would conclude, you don't guess them, but have an existing chance for someone to get out of the army.
If they're stupid enough to not seek for this kind of help or whatever, they can shoot their head off for all I care.

Martlet · « **Reply #19 on:** August 22, 2003, 01:56:58 AM »

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Originally posted by Fishu
As any logical person would conclude, you don't guess them, but have an existing chance for someone to get out of the army.
If they're stupid enough to not seek for this kind of help or whatever, they can shoot their head off for all I care.

As any logical person would conclude, there wasn't any information indicating whether or not he tried to get out of the service.

As any logical person would conclude, if you sign a contract committing to "X" number of years service in trade for "Y" training and benefits, you do your time. At least that's how it works here.

Perhaps now we know why finland doesn't have a military that could beat our boy scouts.

Fishu · « **Reply #20 on:** August 22, 2003, 02:56:32 AM »

Maybe there wasn't if there wasn't possibility to do so.
I don't know about that how US military handles these things.

but I know that if someone during peace time isn't fit for service, theres no use for such invidual either.
Hazardously unwilling invidual with weapons and possibly explosives and whos forced to stay?

Whos benefit does that drive? perhaps coroners in case this invidual goes nuts and decides to blow up himself and a few bystanders?

At least I wouldn't want to have such squad mates, don't know about you, mr. tuff guy.

davidpt40 · « **Reply #21 on:** August 22, 2003, 03:59:55 AM »

I say discharge this guy under "other". It was a victimless crime, and this guy probably has emotional problems.

I dont know what kind of training martlet keeps bragging that the Marines teach. Maybe if this guy wanted to be a shoe-shiner or a clothes-folder, then his marine training would be valuable.

Alot of soldiers have done much worse and got away with it. The Corp was probably much different than he imagined and I bet he wishes he never joined.

Thrawn · « **Reply #22 on:** August 22, 2003, 04:29:17 AM »

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Originally posted by davidpt40
I say discharge this guy under "other". It was a victimless crime,B]

It wasn't a victimless. Every US taxpayer shelled out cold hard cash to room, board and train this dolt. And he just through thier money down the ****ter.

I think he should do time and get a dishonourable discharge.

Edit: ****.

Edit Edit: Hey, when did the filter get put on?

Smut · « **Reply #23 on:** August 22, 2003, 05:11:14 AM »

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Originally posted by Fishu
Maybe there wasn't if there wasn't possibility to do so.
I don't know about that how US military handles these things.

I think you are missing the fact this this guy VOLUNTEERED for the Marines. There is no draft or requirement for military service in the U.S.

-Smut

Fishu · « **Reply #24 on:** August 22, 2003, 05:19:09 AM »

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Originally posted by Smut
I think you are missing the fact this this guy VOLUNTEERED for the Marines. There is no draft or requirement for military service in the U.S.

-Smut

I know, but its other thing what are the options if a person suddenly feels strongly unfit for the service he volunteered for.

I'm not so fond of hazardous squad mates, whatever they originally volunteered for...

Smut · « **Reply #25 on:** August 22, 2003, 08:35:34 AM »

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Originally posted by Fishu
I know, but its other thing what are the options if a person suddenly feels strongly unfit for the service he volunteered for.

Tough cookies. He took an OATH.

Two words:

Personal responsibility

Even simpler, one word:

Honor

-Smut

Fishu · « **Reply #26 on:** August 22, 2003, 09:02:37 AM »

and only way out was to wound himself by shooting?

yeah well...... honor oath whatever, doesn't sound like a good squad mate.

Martlet · « **Reply #27 on:** August 22, 2003, 10:15:52 AM »

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Originally posted by Fishu
Maybe there wasn't if there wasn't possibility to do so.
I don't know about that how US military handles these things.

but I know that if someone during peace time isn't fit for service, theres no use for such invidual either.
Hazardously unwilling invidual with weapons and possibly explosives and whos forced to stay?
Whos benefit does that drive? perhaps coroners in case this invidual goes nuts and decides to blow up himself and a few bystanders?

At least I wouldn't want to have such squad mates, don't know about you, mr. tuff guy.

For someone that doesn't know how the US military handles these things, you sure cry about it an awful lot.

Maverick · « **Reply #28 on:** August 22, 2003, 10:39:48 AM »

You guys just don't get it do you. Don't you realize that fishu is the worlds leading expert on all things military??? Just ask him, he'll tell you. Better yet just check on his posts and you can see it plain as day.

Of course his expertise is all gained without benefit of ever having been in the military (any military) and without any personal experiance, but hey he's still an expert.

Fishu · « **Reply #29 on:** August 22, 2003, 10:42:00 AM »

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Originally posted by Maverick
You guys just don't get it do you. Don't you realize that fishu is the worlds leading expert on all things military??? Just ask him, he'll tell you. Better yet just check on his posts and you can see it plain as day. Of course his expertise is all gained without benefit of ever having been in the military (any military) and without any personal experiance, but hey he's still an expert.

"of course his expertise.." yea? without military experience? are you very sure of it?

I don't know whats up with this thing again..
It is my opinion that such people should be rather kicked out of the army than left there to be a hazard.

Is there SOMETHING WRONG with personal opinion nowadays?
It's US militarys problem if they want to keep nutcases listed, not like I'm going to be against it if they insist.. however I do have all the right to differ with it.
Democracy.. freedom of speech... those things... remember?

Anyway.. since you like to take expertise into question... your experts hasn't found WMD yet, however these home experts do have many explonations why not, as in being buried in deserts etc., however somehow their expertise isn't being looked with bad, even though it's equal level expertise as anyones here