Author Topic: Marine shoots himself........so he wont get deployed (Read 1234 times)

Pfunk · « **on:** August 21, 2003, 12:13:39 PM »

http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/4052308.html

Bah, looks like you have to register to see it.

AWMac · « **Reply #1 on:** August 21, 2003, 12:24:50 PM »

Send him anyways... and if he get's wounded in combat, then NO Purple Heart... just he own3d America that one.... "Now get back out there Boy!!!!"

INHO

Martlet · « **Reply #2 on:** August 21, 2003, 12:37:05 PM »

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Originally posted by AWMac
Send him anyways... and if he get's wounded in combat, then NO Purple Heart... just he own3d America that one.... "Now get back out there Boy!!!!"

INHO

Sadly, he wasn't being deployed to Iraq. He was being "deployed" to Hawaii.

AWMac · « **Reply #3 on:** August 21, 2003, 12:58:44 PM »

WTF??? I was in Hawaii back in '67-'70 how bad can Hawaii be now?

Hope they burn his arse... Guess some are not made out to be in the Military.

<---- US Army '75 - '95 Retired.

funkedup · « **Reply #4 on:** August 21, 2003, 01:06:21 PM »

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Originally posted by AWMac
Send him anyways... and if he get's wounded in combat, then NO Purple Heart... just he own3d America that one.... "Now get back out there Boy!!!!"

INHO

I dunno, not sure I would want to work with somebody demented enough to shoot themselves in order to avoid deployment.

Mini D · « **Reply #5 on:** August 21, 2003, 01:07:50 PM »

Damaging military propery... it's not taken well. The guy could face corrective and a discharge... if they make it "mental", he'd be banned from any federal licensing for life.

The U.S. military has one of the most diverse populaces I've ever seen. In that mix, you get all types... even at the extremes.

MiniD

Fishu · « **Reply #6 on:** August 21, 2003, 01:15:57 PM »

Bah.. why didn't he just leave the army, or is there some facistic rules forbiding it?

davidpt40 · « **Reply #7 on:** August 21, 2003, 01:19:12 PM »

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he was to be stationed in Hawaii,

Man that would be paradise! I'm guessing he would work an 8? hour shift, then have the rest of the day to do whatever? Can you leave the base while on active duty?

Martlet · « **Reply #8 on:** August 21, 2003, 01:23:35 PM »

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Originally posted by Fishu
Bah.. why didn't he just leave the army, or is there some facistic rules forbiding it?

fascist rules?

You sign a contract, and just like many other contracts, you can't just "get out of it". There are very few jobs that will provide as much training and services that the military provides and not require you to fulfill an obligation to allow them to benefit from the time and money they expended on you.

That being said, there are ways to leave the military if you desire. Shooting yourself, while not the wisest, is probably one of them.

Dnil · « **Reply #9 on:** August 21, 2003, 01:40:37 PM »

when I was in, yes you could leave base. I lived off base, as most do. Heck most of us had to work a second job just to make ends meet.

Animal · « **Reply #10 on:** August 21, 2003, 01:51:49 PM »

He should have shot himself in the jugular, with a shotgun.

vorticon · « **Reply #11 on:** August 21, 2003, 01:53:30 PM »

nothing new...though they were drafted

why did he join in the first place...moron

Fishu · « **Reply #12 on:** August 21, 2003, 02:01:49 PM »

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Originally posted by Martlet
fascist rules?

You sign a contract, and just like many other contracts, you can't just "get out of it". There are very few jobs that will provide as much training and services that the military provides and not require you to fulfill an obligation to allow them to benefit from the time and money they expended on you.

That being said, there are ways to leave the military if you desire. Shooting yourself, while not the wisest, is probably one of them.

If guy is about ready to make self induced wound in order to avoid deployament, there would be no use to force such unwilling people to serve.
They could be more of a hazard than anything rated as useful.

Martlet · « **Reply #13 on:** August 21, 2003, 02:27:50 PM »

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Originally posted by Fishu
If guy is about ready to make self induced wound in order to avoid deployament, there would be no use to force such unwilling people to serve.
They could be more of a hazard than anything rated as useful.

My first reaction was "ok, we'll try to guess which soldiers are going to shoot themselves, then boot them from the military" but I realized that was next to impossible.

My second reaction was "if you're so imbalanced that you'd shoot yourself to "get out of" going to Hawaii, then a self-inflicted gunshot wound is probably the best thing for you".

VAQ · « **Reply #14 on:** August 21, 2003, 03:36:29 PM »

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Originally posted by davidpt40
Man that would be paradise! I'm guessing he would work an 8? hour shift, then have the rest of the day to do whatever? Can you leave the base while on active duty?

I don't know how they do it noadays but our "shift" was 12 hours. 12 on 12 off, daycheck or nightcheck. On top of that you would pull occasional duty, 4 hours as Squadron Duty Officer, Assistant Squadron Duty Officer, phone talker (shipboard, sound powered phones), duty driver, compartment or line watch, etc.

Leave the base. heh

For single guys with BAQ (Basic Allowance for Quarters), COMRATS (commuted rations), and uniform allowance you moved off base ASAP.

If it was like a regular 9 to 5 job (8 hour day), being stationed in Hawaii would be so cool. Sounds evil, sorry, but they should hand the jarhead a dishonorable discharge.

Short of Leavenworth, a dishonorable discharge is a bad, bad thing .