Censoring History..

[BGBMAW]

Its is extremly sad to see some countries histories.
But there is a reason why we should never be sensored or forbidden to reveal them. Like the murdering of millions by japanese and germany. If we do not continue to teach younger folks of what happened. Then as itt is said..its bound to repeat itself. If you think that the raping of a country cant happen..You are wrong.  

Funny that the germans just now are getting a monument to the millions of Jews they murdered/slaughtered.

Do the japanese even acknowledge? And if so ..any monuments in japan of them.

Can people post in here about horrible racial/religous acts done by a country..or is it too "sensitive"


well the game of life...


So..what does japan and germany teach of its 30's t0 40s history?

I know being a German american..we were taught extremly little of the slaughetr of Indians in America..

And same for ww1-ww2 history...not much detail..

Is this becuase it will make you want to "hate" the other nationalities?

[rpm]

Sensoring History? Are we sending time-warp probes?

[Skuzzy]

There is a right way and a wrong way to broach sensitive topics.  There is also a time and a place.

The problems are many.  For every WEB site that says someone did something to someone else, you can find another site that says the complete opposite.
Basically, WEB sites are not the most trustworthy of sites for correct history.  So, now you have a premise where you are garanteed to have problems in the discussions.
People use these types of "shock" posts for their own agenda as well.  Trolls, or people looking to make others miserable, or instigate bigotry and so on.

A public bulletin board can offer a wealth of good information, but it can also offer up the most atrociously incorrect information as well.

When the discussions turn into an ugly mess and/or serve to create a potential rift in the community, they are not beneficial to HTC.  They are not beneficial to the community as well.
It is not about forgetting history, it is about preserving our little corner of the world.

There could be all kinds of rationalizations and justifications tossed into this, but it is all irrelevant.  If it is potentially harmful to any member of our community, then it is completely unjustifiable.

[Octavius]

What?  I dont see any censored history.

I'm pretty sure young Germans and Japanese learn of their history and what happened.  I know for a fact that teenage Germans equivalent to high school Sophomores make a trip to a concentration camp.

I know being a German american..we were taught extremly little of the slaughetr of Indians in America..

And same for ww1-ww2 history...not much detail..

Is this becuase it will make you want to "hate" the other nationalities?

"we were taught" ... by whom?  Public schools?  I dunno where you went, but I seem to remember a lot from my years in primary/secondary school.

And not only in primary/secondary schools, universities cover a ****load of history extensively.  

History is written by the winners.

[Skuzzy]

Oct, I think he is waving his finger at me for some action I took in a thread.  Could be wrong, but I don't think so.

[Octavius]

ah ok.  Thought he meant "in general"  


[edit]  And in that case, you shouldn't rely on a community of un-qualified "scholars" to learn of historical events.  Go to school [/edit]

[udet]

censoring, u mean?

[Stringer]

That's Right!

Never let our children forget how we reacted when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor!!

[AKS\/\/ulfe]

Stalin can easily be compared to Hitler in his treatment of Jews. Although they weren't slaughtered, they were still imprisoned... many simply "disappeared". Then again, he killed/imprisoned/disappeared anyone he saw as a threat to himself or Russia based on unfounded accusations. Ever wondered why Russia was beaten like a red headed step child in the opening year of the war? Stalin had millions of experienced military men "dispatched".

Such is the way of dictatorships.
-SW

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by Stringer
That's Right!

Never let our children forget how we reacted when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor!!

LOL!

Speaking of which, Im gonna rent "1941" again.

[type_char]

>Do the japanese even acknowledge? And if
>so ..any monuments in japan of them.

>I know being a German american..we were taught
>extremly little of the slaughetr of Indians in
>America..

The world is not that ignorant. You need to give people more credit than they already have.

Though I do understand. Sometime reading all this horible history stuff of mankind can start to get to you. Just give yourself a break and go read some other subject for a while.

Japan and Germany have paid and coninue to pay for loosing wwII. Japan and Germany are not the same nations today prior to wwII. The US ensured that by staying on their turf.

Nuff said, moving on... Sheesh

[type_char]

I need a new quote about the history of burning books and propoganda and the starvation, control, and eventual slaughter of inocent human lives throughout history.

Any suggestions?

[Rude]

It's all about revisions....therein lies the danger.

[Stringer]

char,
Both the German and Japanese economies have done very well.

I don't think they are still paying for loosing the war one bit.

I think the two nations are better today then before WWII.  Economically they are definately better.

It depends on what you consider better to be, and what you thought of them before WWII.

[straffo]

Originally posted by type_char
I need a new quote about the history of burning books and propoganda and the starvation, control, and eventual slaughter of inocent human lives throughout history.

Any suggestions?

22 juilly 1209 at Bézier Arnaud Amaury said :
Tuez les tous, dieu reconnaîtra les siens.

meaning something like "Kill them all, god will sort his own".