Author Topic: How is this for a Historical Terrain?? The Central Mediterranean  (Read 461 times)

Offline Vermillion

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Ok everyone has been crying out for historical terrains, and now that HTC has unleashed the Terrain Editor, I thought I would share with you what I worked on during the closed beta test.

This terrain is about 95% complete, and I will hopefully have it out by the end of the week for beta testing.

Anyone want to help? If your interested, please email me.

Specifically this terrain was designed to be used for the later stages of the North Africa campaign, the Silcian Campaign, the Italian Campaign, the invasion of Southern France (Operation Anvil), and many many smaller battles.

It is built off from real terrain and land use data from Ogre's magnificent terrain tool, and has been designed with both Air Operations and Vehicle operations in mind.

The pic is a little cluttered since it is from the editor and not the game itself, but you get the basic idea.

 

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Offline Mark Luper

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« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2000, 07:44:00 PM »
Too Cool! I was hoping someone would do that area! Just downloaded the editor and have no idea if I am going to be able to do anything with it. If I can I will be glad to help.

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Offline Westy

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« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2000, 07:56:00 PM »
 WOW wow WOW!!!!   Now I know why you've not been flying online much.....at all.  I'm off to download the editor and it's instructions.

 One quick question? Can you put eal "names" to the fields or do we need to use alpha-numeric designations like "A15" ??

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Offline Wardog

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« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2000, 08:10:00 PM »
Nice Verm

Med terrian begs for Destroyers, Battle ships, CVs, PT boats, Sub and anphibious boats for droppin tanks at island..
Battle Ships pounding the field off the coast, PT boats sneakin in at night hittin the Battle ships.. Damn fun

Did i miss anything?

Dog out........

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« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2000, 08:12:00 PM »
Is that 1:1 scale Verm?  What is the resolution of terrain features?  It really looks great man!!!

Offline Citabria

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« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2000, 08:19:00 PM »
hehe Malta.

excellent  
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« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2000, 08:42:00 PM »
Hmmmm. Let's see. Carry the one, naught, naught, guzingta, carry one... Aha!

One flight sim ain't got no terrain editor and another one ain't out yet and appears to be bein' pushed back farther and farther....

Looks like HTC scores a real big 'ole coup with the release of a terrain editor.  

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« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2000, 08:43:00 PM »
WOW!
It looks great!  Good work!
Are the mountains really mountains?
What's the scale?
Does it look metalic up close?

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« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2000, 08:52:00 PM »
Westy, as of right now and to my knowledge, we are limited to airfield designations, like A24. Full field names were one of the suggestions that we made, but I'm not even sure if they are technically feasible at this point. Maybe in a future version.

FYI, all but like 3-4 fields on this map (these were gameplay considerations) are historic airfields/cities that actually played a part in battles in this theater. So I have a full set of names ready to go. The Vehicle bases are situated so that we can replay as many historic land battles as possible.

Funked, I forgot to get an exact scale measurement in my latest iteration (this is like the 3rd full north africa terrain from scratch, the others developed bugs at different points and I had to start over). But its approximately a 2.5:1 scale. Even then its a very large map. The full map size in the game is 512 arena miles x 512 arena miles. I timed a straight line B-26 flight from Algiers to Tunis at 5k alt last night and it was a 45 minute flight, without counting formup or climbout. HTC has provided us with plenty of space.  

Eskimo, the "metallic" terrain map comes from Ogre's terrain tool that provides the terrain elevations and the land use data that determines which game textures to use for the ground. In the game it looks just like it normally does in the arena, but all the mountains and coastlines match the map and are too proper height scale. The only thing that doesn't look like the kneeboard map is the coloration and the coastline is more "jagged" or "sawtooth" than the kneeboard map. But you can easily look at the two and know where in the historic terrain you are.

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« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2000, 09:00:00 PM »
no sandy desert texturing?  
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« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2000, 10:19:00 PM »
MALTA
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« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2000, 10:56:00 PM »
Oh boy, this is gonna  be so cool! <S> and thanks for your work Vermillion.
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« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2000, 11:50:00 PM »
Geez!!!

>BOING< (Noise of jaw falling on the desk))
Dat jugs bro.

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« Reply #13 on: August 09, 2000, 03:26:00 AM »
Out-friggin-standing Vermillion!

Very soon, all those folks who said AH was getting boring are gonna be proved wrong. Historical or fantasy arenas designed by the players are really gonna rock. And realworld geographical 3D maps to use as templates... Go HTC, GO! Thanks for jumping right in Verm, keep us posted on how it's coming??

Cya up...Brazos  

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« Reply #14 on: August 09, 2000, 04:16:00 AM »
Jeez Pongo, that is literally what I was going to post when I saw this  

WTG Verm!