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Offline Fishu

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« Reply #30 on: September 21, 2000, 03:34:00 PM »
 
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Originally posted by Hangtime:
LOL..

Looked; laffed; left.

There's ONE pony in this simm.. not two (like there are currently FW's) or four (like the 109's)..

And should you LW types get yer D9; gimmie a P51H.. the bird built to answer it.

 

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If LW would stuck into two types of each serie, they would have one 109 and 190...
Sounds pretty idiotic when those planes were most versatile planes in the war history  
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« Reply #31 on: September 21, 2000, 04:04:00 PM »
Hello all

I justed killed 4 planes from 4 different country see for yourself.
 

(left to right) p51,d9,n1k2,yak9u

so you see all those planes are nothing ! hehe oh i used camel to kill them on take off

Bash  Peace!!
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Offline J_A_B

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« Reply #32 on: September 21, 2000, 04:24:00 PM »
Go ahead and put in the D-9.  it won't change anything.

It exists in AW, and is still inferior to the P-51D; only useful for running.

It exists in WB's, but is inferior to the P-51D; only useful for running.

Bring it into AH...it will still be worse thsn P-51D, and will only be useful for running.

People who like German planes (as opposed to liking anything with wings), seem to despise the fact that the P-51D was better than anything the Germans mamaged to field in decent quantities; they utterly hate the P-51D.  Sounds like the real WW2-era Germans, if ya ask me      

Heck, they even think the Dora is the answer to the P-51D...much as Germans did back then, too.

The FW-190D-9 has a long history in online gaming.  And always, without fail, the P-51D is the better plane.  Not by much, but it IS better.  

It isn't likely that there is some sort of global conspiracy out to make the D-9 look bad.  More likely, the D-9 was not quite as good as the Pony....but very, very close.


J_A_B

on another note:

U.S. fighters currently in AH: P-51D, P-47D-30, F4U-1D, F4U-1C, P-38L  (P-47D-25 is in Brazilian colors)

German fighters currently in AH:  ME-109F, ME-109G6, ME-109G10, FW-190A5, FW-190A8.  (G2 is in finnish colors)

How can it be said that the USA has too many fighters modeled, unless the GERMANS also have too many?    

Wouldn't be fair to add a German fighter, unless an American fighter is added too  :P

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Offline wells

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« Reply #33 on: September 21, 2000, 04:32:00 PM »
Kill 2 birds with 1 stone!  P-63

American/Russian very cool, competetive plane, never been modelled, data available...blah...blah...  
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Offline Spatula

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« Reply #34 on: September 21, 2000, 04:38:00 PM »
Give them their 190-D9 they need it:

tour 7
spatula has 27 kills and has been killed 1 time in the P-51D against the Fw 190A-5.

spatula has 3 kills and has been killed 0 times in the P-51D against the Fw 190A-8.

Besides, I might even fly it if its as fast as the stang  

And also give us the Spit 14 to combat it.(troll...)


[This message has been edited by Spatula (edited 09-21-2000).]
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Offline Vermillion

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« Reply #35 on: September 21, 2000, 04:54:00 PM »
I'm with Wells  

Bring on the P-63 KingCobra !!!

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« Reply #36 on: September 21, 2000, 05:02:00 PM »
Tour 7:

stsanta has 5 kills and has been killed 0 times in the Fw 190A-8 against the P-51D.

stsanta has 1 kill and has been killed 0 times in the Fw 190A-5 against the P-51D.

No problem once they stop running and start fighting.  

This tour (and after v1.04, my k/d dropped from 4.5 to 2.2, and only recently has it begun to climb towards 3.4)

stsanta has 9 kills and has been killed 1 time in the Fw 190A-5 against the P-51D.

stsanta has 5 kills and has been killed 1 time in the Fw 190A-8 against the P-51D.

Admittely, I've only met Spatula a couple of times in the air; one memorable time he and his squad mate was z&b'ing us most skillfully, and after a furious and amazing fight, escaped unharmed.

But, the Dora would give us Luftwaffe 190 pilots something the allieds have had for a long time; high altitude performance and ok deckspeed.

Not sure I want it, because of the dweeb phenomenon. I remember 1.03 when suddenly there were millions of "new converts" who loved the LW for some obvious reason.

Now, there are some 190A5's up, very few A8's and not many G10's, and a number of G2's.

So, we need the D9, not because the planes we have now is bad, but because they lack performance in certain areas where the allied planes are very good. But let it be like an A8 that climbs a bit better, and has high altitude performance. That'd weed all the tsjhok and spheet dweebs out  .



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Offline Karnak

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« Reply #37 on: September 21, 2000, 05:08:00 PM »
 
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Originally posted by Fishu:
If LW would stuck into two types of each serie, they would have one 109 and 190...
Sounds pretty idiotic when those planes were most versatile planes in the war history

Er, no.

The DeHavillind Mosquito far Far out does them in versatility.

Ju88 out does them as well.

Spitfire even outdoes them.  Air superiority, bomber escort (ok, not very well, but neiter was the 109), ground attack and photo reconaisance.

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« Reply #38 on: September 21, 2000, 05:47:00 PM »
LOL, lucky I'm on your side of the fence Spatula (and the rest of the Pony Express). I've stayed with the 190's since I started last October, and still love them, though you can find me winging with my squaddies in a Yak now also.
Hm.. the Dora... I'd love to have it too of course, but I'm in no hurry to ask for one. It won't make me a better pilot by virtue of it being a (subjective) better aircraft than the earlier 190s. What it really boils down to is that it doesn't matter to me right now... I'm having too much fun with the A5. Btw, is an A5 dweeb someone that just loves to fly it b/c 190s are their fav plane, or one that flies it just because it has some kind of an.. uberness? to it? i.e. is it still an insult, or just a nickname now that the A5 has been supposedly fixed?

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Originally posted by Spatula:
Give them their 190-D9 they need it:

tour 7
spatula has 27 kills and has been killed 1 time in the P-51D against the Fw 190A-5.

spatula has 3 kills and has been killed 0 times in the P-51D against the Fw 190A-8.

Besides, I might even fly it if its as fast as the stang    

And also give us the Spit 14 to combat it.(troll...)


[This message has been edited by Spatula (edited 09-21-2000).]

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« Reply #39 on: September 21, 2000, 06:42:00 PM »
Pilots get the kills.. not the planes.  Some planes make it slightly easier or slightly harder... but a good pilot can make a plane significantly more lethal.

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« Reply #40 on: September 21, 2000, 06:44:00 PM »
i got that beat

tour 8

 Citabria has 4 kills and has been killed 1 time in the C.202 against the P-51D
 
Citabria has 1 kill and has been killed 0 times in the C.202 against the Fw 190A-5

 

mauser there is nothing dweeby about the 190a5s any more  

all the uberdweeb ride no skill herd has migrated on to the f4u1c again  


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Offline Fishu

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« Reply #41 on: September 21, 2000, 07:21:00 PM »
 
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Originally posted by Karnak:
Er, no.

The DeHavillind Mosquito far Far out does them in versatility.

Ju88 out does them as well.

Spitfire even outdoes them.  Air superiority, bomber escort (ok, not very well, but neiter was the 109), ground attack and photo reconaisance.

Sisu
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I really didn't mean those are top 1 versatile..
by the way, mossie and ju88 really aren't fighters.
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« Reply #42 on: September 21, 2000, 07:25:00 PM »
 
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Originally posted by Citabria:

Citabria has 1 kill and has been killed 0 times in the C.202 against the Fw 190A-5


SHUT UP YOU DAMNED!!!! YOU KNOW WHO THAT 190 WAS?????????!!!!  

 ...(I earned it for trying to outturn a C202 with a sligh E advantage  )
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Offline Fishu

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« Reply #43 on: September 21, 2000, 07:29:00 PM »
 
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Originally posted by J_A_B:
Go ahead and put in the D-9.  it won't change anything.

It exists in AW, and is still inferior to the P-51D; only useful for running.

It exists in WB's, but is inferior to the P-51D; only useful for running.

Bring it into AH...it will still be worse thsn P-51D, and will only be useful for running.

People who like German planes (as opposed to liking anything with wings), seem to despise the fact that the P-51D was better than anything the Germans mamaged to field in decent quantities; they utterly hate the P-51D.  Sounds like the real WW2-era Germans, if ya ask me      

Heck, they even think the Dora is the answer to the P-51D...much as Germans did back then, too.

The FW-190D-9 has a long history in online gaming.  And always, without fail, the P-51D is the better plane.  Not by much, but it IS better.  

It isn't likely that there is some sort of global conspiracy out to make the D-9 look bad.  More likely, the D-9 was not quite as good as the Pony....but very, very close.


J_A_B

on another note:

U.S. fighters currently in AH: P-51D, P-47D-30, F4U-1D, F4U-1C, P-38L  (P-47D-25 is in Brazilian colors)

German fighters currently in AH:  ME-109F, ME-109G6, ME-109G10, FW-190A5, FW-190A8.  (G2 is in finnish colors)

How can it be said that the USA has too many fighters modeled, unless the GERMANS also have too many?    

Wouldn't be fair to add a German fighter, unless an American fighter is added too  :P


It is just about having other late war plane for LW also than just Me109G-10 and heavy Fw190A-8.

and what is quality / year of those US fighters compared to LW?  

They might as well give P-51C, P-51B, P-47C...
f4u and P-47 has just two versions avail, then theres P-51 and P-38 which.

So, we have two german fighters that have been produced in some versions, but 4 different series of fighters in US side.
With F4u having significantly different C version and P47 slightly less different D-25 from D-30)

Give me 6x.50cal / 4x20mm option for Me109 anyday...
4x20mm anti-tank hispanos would go for tank and buff hunting while I would use .50 calibers for fighters.
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« Reply #44 on: September 21, 2000, 07:46:00 PM »
 
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Originally posted by bashwolf:
hehe oh i used camel to kill them on take off

Bash  Peace!!


Stop that, it makes me feel icky!  

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