Author Topic: Most Kills in One Sortie? (Read 3668 times)

B17Skull12 · « **Reply #90 on:** September 07, 2003, 10:58:47 AM »

alright the title of most 1 kill sorties belongs to merlin01. 52 kills in a pt boat.

wulfie · « **Reply #91 on:** September 07, 2003, 07:00:18 PM »

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Originally posted by Halo
Most aircraft are heavy firepower or good endurance or both.

Endurance doesn't really matter in most of those cases I think.

I was shooting guys on the runway with no AAA to defend them. I returned to base because I ran out of all types of ammunition. I don't think that P-47 took a single hit.

Heavy firepower only matters because you are competing to inflict the most damage on some poor schmuck when 2 or 3 guys are shooting at him within a second or two of when he appears on the runway.

k/d, k/t, k/s are even more skewed now because there is no small # of 'experts' in the MA that make a practice out of following strikes aimed at airfields. Their only purpose on almost all of their missions is to rack up as many kills as quickly as possible with as little 'fighting' as possible. Shooting enemy aircraft on takeoff at a field with no operational AAA is their primary 'skill' in terms of AH.

I was flying as part of a squadron during the AH 'top gun contest'. A couple of the newer guys in the squadron would sit in the tower for an hour or two, because flying a sortie before 'the perfect situation arose' would adversely affect their rank. I decided that I had finally seen enough when I found out that guys from the same squadron were changing sides and repeatedly spawinging at a location that their 'buddy' was covering while flying for a different team so they could give their 'buddy' huge kill streaks and a great k/t and k/d ranking.

You know you have run into someone good when you catch them alone on the deck and you have them 1 or 2 or 3 on 1 with the 1 or 2 or 3 all having superior E-states. You know the guy is good when he should be dead almost instantly and he turns it into a serious fight. That is the only thing that can not be 'gamed' or 'artificially boosted'. Unfortunately there is no 'stat' that can show that.

An interesting 'stat' would be how long a 'kill' was 'in the air' before it was shot down.

Maybe in the future there will be a way to calculate the ratio of friendly to enemy aircraft within a 5 or 10 mile radius at the time of a kill.

Both 'stats' would show 'what is really happening' with more (but not near total) accuracy.

I'm not saying there's anything inherently wrong with 'spawn camping'. Sometimes it is fun to just blow up a ton of airplanes. Call it 'quake fever'. Some here speak of 'quake players' as some sort of inferior life form but there are times when playing quake on an insane CTF server is more fun than AH. It depends on your mood. And there is for certain skill involved with FPS games. If individual soldiers are ever modeled I cannot wait to hear the howls of the 'realism battalion' when 1 red hot quake player outmoves and outshoots 15 'sky accountants' (ask lazs for a definition of that one

) carrying rifles and single handedly takes an airfield.

Sometimes it is fun to shoot La-7s with a Tiger I as they begin to take off.

Sometimes it is fun to do almost anything that can be done in AH.

The problem arises when people begin to 'Go McNamara' and directly equate some combination of statistics with overall (ACM, gunnery, SA, JM drinking tolerance) skill.

If you want to get really good go get in really bad situations and learn to survive and win. Your k/d will suck for a long time. So what.

Mike/wulfie

Fishu · « **Reply #92 on:** September 07, 2003, 09:13:57 PM »

While we're at it.. how many 4-engine bombers have you guys been able to drop with C.202 in a sortie?

Wadke · « **Reply #93 on:** September 07, 2003, 10:20:44 PM »

i win

B17Skull12 · « **Reply #94 on:** September 07, 2003, 11:10:46 PM »

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Originally posted by Wadke
i win

wadke it was 302 times 302

327thBS · « **Reply #95 on:** September 08, 2003, 07:01:41 PM »

the most kills i have gotten in a sortie with out re-arming is 9 kills in a La-7

2stony · « **Reply #96 on:** September 09, 2003, 03:27:39 PM »

"The sun rose twice that day"

9,345 kills in a 10 megaton Hydrogen bomb that was strapped to my AR234. I don't know which percentage were ground or air as it happened too quickly.

moot · « **Reply #97 on:** October 17, 2003, 10:42:06 AM »

I don't keep count anymore..

did 9 and 8 in a 202. Think I did 14 once, but it was a reload.
+-35 in a D9 three times, vulching except for one.
43 in a 262, 1 reload. 30 with 1 reload untill 4-5 of the guys I was killing over and over (all a2a) ganged me into a corner like a helpless schoolgirl.
28 and 24 in a 205, 1 reload each.
24 in an A8... Lazerus did 25.
know I did some big single-sorties in 152, tempest and chog (mb 28 vulching), but it was too long ago.
can do near 20 on 1 GV killing sortie and 15 on nothing but tanks with the mossie pretty often.

did 78 in a tempest in about 5-10min of H2H vulching.
+-13 by true a2a dogfight at least five times in a D11, but died rather than snailing back to rearm.

Black Sheep · « **Reply #98 on:** October 17, 2003, 12:43:09 PM »

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Originally posted by Halo
Status Report 1: If I am reading these posts correctly, here are the leaders in kills after only ONE sortie (NO rearm, NO refuel, fighter only):

AHGOD, CHOG, 42

This I seriously doubt - My best 1 sortie, no rearm in a CHOG is 30; this was with 1 DT, 1000lber and the 4 rocks. I got a kill with each ordinance (10), thats dropping them on buff formations taking off

(right place, right time)

A few A2A kills and the rest Vulchin.

Needless to say, and lucky or not, please post the films to such extravagant tales

AcId · « **Reply #99 on:** October 17, 2003, 02:24:00 PM »

16 F4U-1
13 P-38
12 Yak-9u

No reloads

slimm50 · « **Reply #100 on:** October 17, 2003, 04:24:45 PM »

5, and damned proud of it!:lol

AHGOD · « **Reply #101 on:** October 17, 2003, 04:54:31 PM »

Add 28 while in a ME-110 G-2

Sundiver · « **Reply #102 on:** October 17, 2003, 05:51:29 PM »

13 in a Yak9U is the one that really stands out.

Gunslinger · « **Reply #103 on:** October 17, 2003, 06:23:52 PM »

Landed 22 in a B26. I was empty and just a flyin around. Suckers will allways try for an "easy" shot at three buffs.

Halo · « **Reply #104 on:** October 17, 2003, 08:35:56 PM »

Status Report 4: If I am reading these posts correctly, here are the leaders in kills after only ONE sortie (NO rearm, NO refuel, fighter only):

AHGOD, Chog, 42 (challenged by several; 28 in 110 G-2)
Black Sheep, Chog, 30
Wulfie, P-47D30, 26
Furball, Chog, 26
Citabria, Me262, 25
Gatso, Chog, 25
Ack-Ack, P-38L, 24
Eskimo2, Chog, 24
Icemaw, P-47D30, 24
Load, 190A8, 24
Moot, 190A8, 24
NHattila, P-38, 24
Steve, P-51D, 21
Skurj, 110G2, 20
Slash27, La5, 20
WldThing, Typhoon, 20

These 16 the only pilots reporting 20 or more kills exactly (no approximations), and only their highest single total score is mentioned (some also have other sorties above 20). Let me know any corrections needed.

Not included are plus/minus approximations or unofficial reports by second parties.

Chogs are five of the top eight, including first and second, and tied for third, fourth and fifth. Wasn't Chog the aircraft that started the clamor for perks? Most aircraft are heavy firepower or good endurance or both.

Note in the thread several impressive scores in the teens by lightly armed fighters, especially the Yak-9U.