Tour 8:
- verm has 3 kills and has been killed 2 times in Me109G10.
Sorry I dont believe you in that statement.
Here let me give you the rest too.
Verm has 0 kills and has been killed 1 time in the P-51D
Verm has 7 kills and has been killed 5 times in the Yak-9U.
Verm has 23 kills and has been killed 2 times in the F4U-1C.
Verm has 3 kills and has been killed 2 times in the Bf 109G-10.
Now most of -1C missions (my first since like tour 3), were two sets of ground attack missions on airfields where the ack was knocked down, so admittedly I got ALOT of vulchs. Probably 5 of those were legit air to air kills. I can remember two 5 kills vulch missions in a row one night.
In the G10 of my deaths, one was a lawndart, and the other was versus StSanta. Afterwards we both thought the other was warping, but neither could figure out which it was, and it was still a close fight. We both agreed to relog, and left it at that.
So if you want to go purely by stats, the G10 is a much more effective fighter than the P51.
easy, because then the P51 will run away and you wont catch it in your life. What you ask is to let go ANY P51 that dives under 8K?...sorry,but I find this quite surprising.And unbeliable
Let him dive to the deck RAM, once he gets there his speed will bleed down to the normal non-dive speed (367mph), and you can stay above 5k, where your speed is better than his and you will run him down. Once he can't dive no more, and you are fairly close (within 2k distance) you can slowly dive down but intentionally keeping your speed below 450mph. Plus you have more WEP, and at 5k your non dive speed is 400. 450 (or 400) > 367 right? You will catch him, it just takes patience. But you WILL catch him.
Come on Verm, this is ridiculous. People in this BBS have said SEVERAL TIMES that the 6x50 cals on P51D are EQUAL to Fw190A8's 4x20mm (ridiculous by itself). So 3x20mm MUST have less hittin power.
Ram, the
only people that has said that, is Fishu, and its been repeated by you. No one else has. Period. And like I said before, I don't trust Fishu's word unless he provides us with some scientific testing. He has proven to be just too bias'd when it comes to Luftwaffe aircraft in the past for me to believe him.
Systematic scientific tests done by other players have shown the exact opposite results.
All I can say is, show me the proof and we can debate the gun issue intelligently, without it... *shrugs* I will reserve the right to disbelieve.
sustained? yes. but with flaps a well flown P51 will be able to turn inside the G10 quite quickly. I know it. I have flown both quite much.Of course if he misses the chance, then E will be a problem, but the position is won and he has his enemy's 6. So, all in all P51 has the edge in turning fights.
Please explain to me why you are engaging P51's in the horizontal plane (flat or semi-flat turning fights)? The G10 is one of the best (if not the best) vertical fighters in the game. If your turn fighting P51's, your not flying your plane to its strengths. No wonder your getting your clock cleaned by Ponys.
30mm is not next to useless in fightervsfighter role. 20mm gondolas?...read above....
30mm is not a good fighter versus fighter weapon, agreed. But the Gondola's? I have flown
every one of my G10 missions with Gondolas. True they degrade performance, but once you get use to them, they are worth it in terms of firepower versus the performance you lose. And you can still outperform a Pony with them.
You like looking at the stats, so with gondolas I have a straight out 3/2 = 1.5 to 1 Kill/Death ratio with them. And if you disregard my lawndart, and or my fight with Santa (no blame, just an admittedly warpy fight) I am either a 3:1 K/D or a 3:0 K/D. So gondola's suck huh?
And yak has 2 12.7mm monsters, while g10 has 2 13mm peashooters. Yak hitting power is BIGGER than G10's.
Again,
Prove it with numbers. The tests I have seen show that these two aircrafts relative hitting power is almost the same. While I agree that the .50 is more powerful than the 13mm, I believe that the 13mm and the 12.7mm is quite similar.
bring the Fw190d9 With Mw50. And the runstand will stop running and start fighting
No it won't IMO, read my response in the other thread. It just means that Pony pilots will fight you differently (just like another Pony), and those changes in tactics will generally negate the speed differential.
RAM, I admire your loyalty and your enthusiasm. And I think your a good pilot too. But try to look at thing objectively and rationally, without the passion sometimes.
It is much more likely to gain you the respect that you seem to want from the community.
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Vermillion
**MOL**, Men of Leisure
[This message has been edited by Vermillion (edited 09-22-2000).]
