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Offline Pyemia

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« on: December 01, 2001, 07:06:00 AM »
Having recently downloaded the Aces High download and installed it, I must say I am extremely disappointed.

Although I can see that the programmers have tried their best to incorporate many of the winning elements of WW2ONLINE and Warbirds / Air Warrior I feel they have fallen short of the mark.

Firstly I have found a lack of cohesiveness.  The primary elements do not meld into a single immersive game but seem to float like so much flotsom, never really bridging into each other but rather, glaringly opposing each other like medievil knights.  This is frighteningly obviously when one consideres the bomber / fighter or fighter bomber / vehicle elements.

Secondly the graphics while at first seemingly passable begin to wear at the seams the longer one studies them.  In a pixel by pixel comparison with games like Air Warrior / Fighter Ace / Warbirds, the latter games FPS are much higher while still providing superior graphics engines and in this authors opinion, a much improved and pleasant interface.

Thirdly, the gameplay? where is it?  

Fourth - The flight models seem very simplistic compared with games like IL2, FA, and even Warbirds and Air Warrior.  In many cases an AH aircraft will perform amazing manuevers while another will seriously underperform to the point which make its unflyable?  I give you the Macchi 202 vs the Spitfire V. In real life the Macchi had a hugely acute turning advantage over the Spitfire V.  I find this is not modeled in Aces High.  Similarly the BF 109 series being defeated constantly by the LaGG series of aircraft is horrendously laughable.

Finally I think sounds should be customizable and the map while providing useful information should be removable.  I'm sure WW2 pilots didn't fly around with a large map placed on their windshields.

All in all I give Aces High a score of 3 out of 10.  I would like to know why I should pay my 15 hard earned dollars for this program.

Perhaps the community here is good, all i've seen so far however is a lot of whining and childish namecalling.


My first thought when meeting someone new:  "what have they got that I can take away from them?"


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Offline FlyingDuckSittingSwan

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« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2001, 07:18:00 AM »
:eek:

*hands you a shovel, a helmet and a flack jacket

Put on the helmet and flak jacket and use the shovel to dig yourself a fox-hole, then hold on tight. Cos the heavy artillery is INCOMING!!!  :D   :D   :D   :D

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« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2001, 07:24:00 AM »
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I would like to know why I should pay my 15 hard earned dollars for this program.
 

You shouldn't .

What a troll , the bait really stinks .

 
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providing superior graphics engines  

Have fun in FA . LMAO

Go dangle your old worm somewere else   :mad:
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Offline dawvgriid

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« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2001, 07:30:00 AM »
maybe you should had given it a second thoght
my friend  ;) follow FSSD advice  :D
Who wants so start,,,,?
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« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2001, 07:35:00 AM »
Hi MG

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« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2001, 07:51:00 AM »
You get 2 weeks of free online play to decide if AH is right for you.  If it isn't....bye bye.    :)
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Offline Pyemia

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« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2001, 08:16:00 AM »
whoops, no idea why I included Fighter Ace in there, should have been IL2.  Please disregard.  

Airspro, I have no intention of dragging you into a flame war.  I am merely interested in some positive feedback from current playing members of the Aces High community.  Are you saying that there is no merit to my observations and if so, please clarify.


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Offline 2Late4U

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« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2001, 08:22:00 AM »
<YAWN>

Very poor attempt at a troll, and an even more pathetic attempt at a review in the unbelievable chance your not kidding.  :rolleyes:

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« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2001, 08:24:00 AM »
Waves~~~bye-bye!

Thorns   :D

Offline aztec

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« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2001, 08:30:00 AM »
Can't say much about points 1 thru 4, they are based on your feelings and opinions and I certainly respect your right to express them. However your comment about sounds make no sense to me...sounds are customizable and there are many custom sounds available to the community or you can quite easily customize them yourself.

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« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2001, 08:38:00 AM »
I should warn you, but you will soon find out the AH community can be defensive almost to the point of viciousness.  At the very least I can predict dozens of "good riddance" responses to your post.   Apologies for those ahead of time.

Some of the items in your post indicate you might not be aware of all the features in AH - for example, it isn't necessary to fly with the map up all the time - it is removable.   Also, depending on the situation and particular models in question, the BF109 is not constantly defeated by the LAGG fighters.  Flying the 109 successfully is difficult, but not impossible.  I suggest you try to hook up with a trainer if you want to fly the 109 with success.   As far as the other flight models, I can assure HTC takes those seriously and has high standards for them.  When flaws are pointed out and backed up with proof, HTC can and does make adjustments.

The sounds ARE customizable, and the addon soundpacks available from the download page
are very well done.

Graphics are subjective, but for the most part I find AH superior to FA and WB 2.77.

Gameplay is up to you - joining an organized squad is often the best way, however flying in scenarios also offers you a way to participate in an environment where the strategy is more tightly controlled.  You weren't specific as to what you thought was missing, so I'm guessing here.

It sounds to me like you just didn't find out about the game thoroughly before you made your judgements.  Its not for everyone,
but I encourage you to contact a trainer and get more familiar with AH's features before you quit.

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« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2001, 08:38:00 AM »
don't let the door hit you in the bellybutton on the way out...
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« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2001, 08:47:00 AM »
ROFLOL

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Offline K West

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« Reply #13 on: December 01, 2001, 08:56:00 AM »
Funny. I heard the same exact thing from over 400 people who were online last night. But HTC would not let them go.

 Huh?


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 lol


reeel em in!

 Actually, no real response from me unless you provide your actual gameId to show you really tried AH at all. No one by the handle Pyemia has ever taken to the online AH MA skies. SO imo your post really is a troll as it's currently based on no  experience whatsoever as regards to what AH is like. Unless it was in off line or H2H mode in which case just about all of your comments on AH are fluff and vacuous.

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« Reply #14 on: December 01, 2001, 09:09:00 AM »
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previously posted by oboe

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I should warn you, but you will soon find out the AH community can be defensive almost to the point of viciousness. At the very least I can predict dozens of "good riddance" responses to your post. Apologies for those ahead of time.
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Thank you oboe, having previously perused the other posts on this board I half suspected that some of the lower lying pondscum would slither in here sooner or later.


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Some of the items in your post indicate you might not be aware of all the features in AH - for example, it isn't necessary to fly with the map up all the time - it is removable.
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Yes I realise this but once removed you are unabled to keep a situational track on bandits.  In RL you would be able to obtain updates via the radio and thru wingmen.

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the BF109 is not constantly defeated by the LAGG fighters. Flying the 109 successfully is difficult, but not impossible. I suggest you try to hook up with a trainer if you want to fly the 109 with success.
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Being an experienced virtual fighter pilot (almost exclusively AXIS fighters) I can tell very quickly whether a particular FM is modeled correctly.  I can assure you the AXIS planes are undermodeled whilst the Allied planes seem to be triple water injected, TnB demons.

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The sounds ARE customizable, and the addon soundpacks available from the download page
are very well done.
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Apologies for this one. I have only just obtained the online documentation.


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Graphics are subjective, but for the most part I find AH superior to FA and WB 2.77.
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I must disagree with you here, while AW and WB graphics are similiar to AH, AH takes a huge FPS hit. Almost to the point of unplayability.


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Gameplay is up to you - joining an organized squad is often the best way, however flying in scenarios also offers you a way to participate in an environment where the strategy is more tightly controlled. You weren't specific as to what you thought was missing, so I'm guessing here.
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As far as I can tell there is no information on Scenario's available to date, so I can't comment.  I may however join a squad and experiment with that for awhile.  Thank you for the tip.

As far as whats missing:

1) There are no missions available at all.  When I insisted that my country start a mission I was made fun of and generally told to shut up.

2) Bombers are useless.  I flew almost 1 1/2 hours, obtained a altitude of 35000 ft and dropped a stick of 14 bombs on a base.  When I returned later the base was fully repaired.  In addition to this bombers seem to be killed extremely easily.

3)There seems to be no organization at all, everybody fly's around firing stupidly without any sort of strategic objective.

4) There doesn't seem to be any sort of forward bullet deflection which was used to great success any other great online flight sims.  This makes front quarter attacks more frequent and probably even encourages them.


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