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Offline straffo

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« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2003, 03:21:47 AM »
"straffo has 23 kills and has been killed 5 times against the Rooks."

I'm happy to have switched even if the Rook taste more funny than the bishop (but with a unimitable crusty texture :) )
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« Reply #16 on: September 09, 2003, 04:41:49 AM »
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Because people would rather vulch and game their score than fight against the country with the most people on. It's pretty lame.

Then again, this behavior is a product of the game we have. No strat to worry about, no death penalties to hinder nonsense flying, field AA too easy to kill and simple point and shoot kills achievable by any cannon-armed aircraft when shooting planes on the ground.

Until there is something other than points and kill messages to play for, the outnumbered country will always take a gangbanging. It doesn't seem to matter who gets the perks either, I think people just like to see the map reset so they can start off fresh with more free undefended bases to milk-run.
Spot on, Midnight. Best post I've read today. We need something to play for other than scores and kill messages. That's why I'm in favour of some form of meaningful strat. Simple field capture is not enough, but it's all we've got right now.

As long as we have no meaningful strat, this game will continue to be dominated by the wanktardz. That's why I'm at a loss to understand why the furballers are so derisive of strat. Would they really prefer the crap we have now?
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« Reply #17 on: September 09, 2003, 04:43:41 AM »
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complain in Channel 1 about dispersing our strength.

Early this afternoon the Rooks had a nice wedge straight down the middle of the board and were smashing the Knits to smithereens and letting the Bish walk all over us.

Now, there were a couple dozen of us upping against the Bish, but I swear to GAWD it was 75% of the Rooks vs 100% of the Knits, and 25% vs the Bish.

There is only so many times you can scream for help on Country for help here or there.

Sometimes I wonder about this game. It is REALLY good for me when I get in with some strategic minded people, who can plan 3 bases ahead of the current attack, and do what is needed. Now, I hold NOTHING against people who just want to furball, they are paying their $15 too, but c'mon!!! There is a time and a place to fly around IMO worthlessly.

How many times have you seen a stream of your team heading towards a base they have been "trying" to take for hours and you know they will never get it.

Hmmm, looking at this, I am getting off topic...

Vulching is one thing. Camping the base while you are losing the other front is another.



I wonder what would happen if we increased the availiable points and perkies for sorties associated with a mission? Place a time limit on the mission score bonus starting with the first mission A/C to take out an AA position. Instead of a free-for-all mentality, people would have to work together to increase their scores. Oh wait...that sounds like AH2...nevermind....

On the topic of vulching and camping, sometimes too much of a good thing is bad.
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« Reply #18 on: September 09, 2003, 08:24:44 AM »
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IMO, the problem is the furball instead the score...


i disagree.

Big green bars with little red bars with a clear path to an enmy base is what attracts the most players.
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« Reply #19 on: September 09, 2003, 09:58:03 AM »
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Spot on, Midnight. Best post I've read today. We need something to play for other than scores and kill messages. That's why I'm in favour of some form of meaningful strat.


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« Reply #20 on: September 09, 2003, 10:14:40 AM »
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Besides, we know that the Rooks only count for 2/3 of a person anyway.
ack-ack


 Thats why we travel and packs ack-ack.....
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« Reply #21 on: September 09, 2003, 10:47:23 AM »
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just means more of a target rich enviroment for me to wreak havoc in.


We are lucky that your concept of havoc is roughly equivalent to my concept of tickle. :D
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« Reply #22 on: September 09, 2003, 11:09:33 AM »
ell yas something guys from a bish perspective this fight between the nits and the rooks was nothing short of abysmal.  I sat there for 15 minutes solid looking for a red bar that hadnt got a zillion bish already there and I couldnt find one.  Then some rook idiot complained about being ganged, roflmao, he was the only target in 100 miles your damn right he was ganged!!

Seriously though, what happened in the MA Monday nite (UK time) was not 1 bit funny.  It was fine if you were the sort of bish who enjoys winging with a zillion other bish and straffing undefended fields.  But to someone who actually likes a fair fight, it was bloody awful.  Eventually the nitwits upped a few in the south which gave at least the odd sighting of an enemy contact. AT any given instant there were < 10 rooks fighting bish. Guys I know everyone pays their own 15bucks and its up to them who they fight, but whenj this means that one whole country has no-one to fight it stops being a matter of personal choice.  If this became a regular occurance it would definitely be an issue which if left unresolved would result in many players quittin AH.

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« Reply #23 on: September 09, 2003, 11:11:53 AM »
Obviously, points are meaningless. There is no "meaningful strat". There is no "something else to play for".

There is only the fight.

Some guys know this intrinsically the first time they log on. Others play a while and come to realize it.

Some never get it and never will get it.

They wander the arenas in search of "meaningful strat" for their entire gaming lives.

"The treasure you seek shall not be the treasure you find."

For what you seek does not, will not, ever exist.

But treasure there is; it's here, if you know what to look for.

There is only the fight.
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« Reply #24 on: September 09, 2003, 11:41:33 AM »
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As long as we have no meaningful strat, this game will continue to be dominated by the wanktardz. That's why I'm at a loss to understand why the furballers are so derisive of strat. Would they really prefer the crap we have now?


You mean the crap like guys who hover above their enemies, too frightened to engage for fear they may lose their advantage?

Or maybe you mean a form of crap like lemmings from above, swarming undefended fields?

If you admit that you have no meaningful strat, then why spend your time in a meaningless manner? The same answer I come up with is that the serious strat guys have small stones....they exist in one dimension.

Ya see, all the guys who look for the fight that I know, could outstrat your butt with very little effort...we have walked in your shoes, while you refuse to even try ours on.

Furballers derisive of strat? I don't think so....we just discovered what you currently speak of, well over a year ago.
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« Reply #25 on: September 09, 2003, 11:59:35 AM »
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AT any given instant there were < 10 rooks fighting bish.


Hey Gremlin, in fact we had a peak of 15 rooks fighting bish, and today things seem to be the same.
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« Reply #26 on: September 09, 2003, 12:19:30 PM »
Rude - I don't understand. Clearly the current set up is not to your liking, what with suicide fuel porkage, suicide CV destruction, hordes, steamrollers... and it's because there are no rules, no holds barred, fly whatever you like whenever you like that we have the idiotic gameplay we have now. So why jump all over me? I'm not the one that's ruining your game. All I would like to see is some different game objectives. Midnight is right. Right now, we just have the scoreboard, and kill messages. So folks will attack en masse, vulch, fly überplanes the whole time, switch to the winning side, and do anything else that maximises their points tally. We need some semblance of motivation - a more structured game, perhaps. Or do you want forever to have your fun ruined by SFP wanktardz?
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« Reply #27 on: September 09, 2003, 12:25:12 PM »
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Isn't B&Z only a slighty evolved form of vultching?
Geez, it won't be long before having a 500' alt advantage will be perceived as vulching. :rolleyes:
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« Reply #28 on: September 09, 2003, 12:41:08 PM »
Gonna stir the pot here since this seems to be a thread filled with a bunch of elementary school girls.  "Stop vulching me" "Stop vulching the knights"  "Defend against the Bish" "We're out-numbered".

Why doesn't one of you publish your book on "How you are suppose to act and Play in AH", get everyone to sign off on it and then start this thread over again.  

Until then, I'm off to vulch some nits and take over some undefended Bish fields!!!:rolleyes:
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« Reply #29 on: September 09, 2003, 01:02:43 PM »
Fix the game by putting a penalty on dieing.  You die 2x at a base and you have to come up somewhere else.

Vulchees - I would come up at the next base and come in with some alt.

Vulchors - I would make sure I didn't do something stupid. Like killshooter.

Gangbangers - Hard to do when the cons are 15k.

Buffs- this might make the buff a strategic weapon again instead of "what-ever-it-is" TM.  I bet Missions would be more popular too.
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