Gun kill power

[SpyHawk]

Does anybody have a chart or something that shows relative kill power vs. range for all the different guns in AH? Perhaps also a penetration factor vs. range chart as well?

I'd be very interested to see this all laid out.

Thanks guys!

[RAM]

I'd like better to see before the true performance data chart of the Spitfire IX.

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[Tac]

And of the P-38. It seems nose guns (aka almost perfect convergence) are WORTHLESS. You gotta spray a LOT of lead into someone to do damage. Everything I read on the 38 praised the snaphot kill potential of its armament, yet here that is not the case at all  

[Fishu]

 

Originally posted by Tac:
And of the P-38. It seems nose guns (aka almost perfect convergence) are WORTHLESS. You gotta spray a LOT of lead into someone to do damage. Everything I read on the 38 praised the snaphot kill potential of its armament, yet here that is not the case at all  

Snapshot also means aiming a part itself, not just hitting the plane..
Snapshots anyway are supposed to be done close in and with good aim in some specific spot on the plane.

[Tac]

Umm.. no. Snapshot means a quickly aimed, short burst shot. The kind you do when are nearly compressed and diving on a low plane that Turns or Split-s's giving you time for 1 or 2 pings only on target.

F4U-C, 190 and N1k are Snapshot planes because their amazing firepower gets them kills with very few pings..and most time, those pings are from weird angles...in short, kills they did NOT work for, just quick aim and quick shot.

Convergence snapshots when you fly Pony, F4U-D or any other plane not above usually results in a quick kill due to the concentrated lead put into one place. Yet in 38, you have to pump a LOT of lead to get a kill.

[RAM]

 

Originally posted by Tac:


F4U-C, 190 and N1k are Snapshot planes because their amazing firepower gets them kills with very few pings..and most time, those pings are from weird angles...in short, kills they did NOT work for, just quick aim and quick shot.

LOL when was the last time you flew a 190, man??...one with no 30mm?  

since 1.03 came Mausers are worse still than they used to be...so the snapshot power of the 190 is laughable...I take on my plane more damage on a snapshot by a P51 than by a 190...

lol

[Citabria]

all guns suck now you dorks not just 50s not just 20mm.

they are all now nibble to death pop guns compared to earlier ah versions because its more fun that way for the person being shot at. and we all get shot at and tell me you dont like it when you survive a dweeb c cannon hit?

deal with it.
the whiners wanted more spray and hits per kill and they got it so here we are having lots of fun with ourselves until we try to head on a b17 without diving from above and die at d1.0 before we even  fire.

man what a pointless rant that was.

next time i just not post this trash.

[easymo]

 It was a LOT more fun when you knew one mistake and it was over.

[Hazed]

sorry i agree with citabria...heaven forbid  

[flakbait]

I took these figures from Guns & Ammo 1997 Annual, ballistics chart section in the back.

Caliber: .50BMG
Weight: 650 grains [x 7,000 for lbs]
Bullet type: Full Metal Jacket

Trajectory: Listed as inches either below or above the set zero o the sights. Default sight zero set at 250 yards.

100: +2.8
150: +3.2
200: +2.3
250: +0.0
300: -3.8
400: -16.6
500: -37.2

Velocity & Energy: Velocity measured in feet per second [fps] energy measured in foot-pounds [ft-lbs].
v. = velocity in fps, e. = energy in ft-lbs

muzzle: v.2910 e.12,220
100: v.2694 e.8942
200: v.2489 e.7587
300: v.2292 e.6396
400: v.2105 e.5358
500: v.1926 e.4585

Now you've got actual ballistics to work with. This is, however, information for .50BMG [browning machine gun] made these days and not 60 years ago.


Flakbait

[funked]

You gotta be kidding me.  Johnson brought home a P-47 with 20 hits from 20 mm.  Try that here.

Likewise Franz Stigler brought home a 109 with 82 hits from 50 cal.  Try that here too.

If anything, the guns are too strong.

[Nath-BDP]

Yes they are too strong and the damage model is too quakish.

[Tac]

"one with no 30mm?"

Well, hey, I always go for the big guns  . Most of the times 190's kill me are one or two pings and the whole thing goes kablooie!  

[Nash]

Hehe Cita what a way to end yer post  

I agree with ya 100%.... is much better now.

[-towd_]

except for the buff fighter prob , the super hog ( even if it was turned down) and super slow 109 30 mil ( got me if this is right but over 150 yds you to pray well is more important than aimin well)