Author Topic: citizenship test (Read 2018 times)

Dowding · « **Reply #15 on:** September 19, 2003, 12:25:30 AM »

lol The well known fascist known as Maggie Thatcher loved the idea of a Poll Tax. So much so that it cost her her job. I cried myself to sleep that day.

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #16 on:** September 19, 2003, 12:25:59 AM »

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Originally posted by Tarmac
I think we'd need different tests based on age here.

You actually think I was a Yankee fan in 1927?

Tarmac · « **Reply #17 on:** September 19, 2003, 12:31:38 AM »

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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
You actually think I was a Yankee fan in 1927?

No, but I think you were a baseball fan back when someone cared about professional baseball. That's before my time.

Gadfly · « **Reply #18 on:** September 19, 2003, 12:35:07 AM »

What is "baseball"?

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #19 on:** September 19, 2003, 12:41:15 AM »

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Originally posted by Tarmac
Man, I'd fail this test miserably. I don't give a rat's bellybutton about most sports, especially sports before I was born....

So your indifference toward sports is how most people feel about Baseball?

30+ teams and with what... 2,000,000 tickets sold each team?

I went to a Dodgers game with my dad when I was in grade school and haven't been to a game since, and I know the story of Lou Gehrig.

Next time Ken Burns 'Baseball' comes back to PBS, give it a watch. A lot of American social history, especially through the 1950's parallels that of baseball.

Maniac · « **Reply #20 on:** September 19, 2003, 02:13:20 AM »

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should the people born in the USA have to pass the citizenship test* before they can vote

The thing is that i guess we from Europe would score higher on this test then the American citizens themselfs...

Tumor · « **Reply #21 on:** September 19, 2003, 05:17:48 AM »

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Originally posted by Gadfly
What is "baseball"?

it's boreing... very very boreing.

beet1e · « **Reply #22 on:** September 19, 2003, 06:13:14 AM »

wrag · « **Reply #23 on:** September 19, 2003, 07:18:52 AM »

Democracy?

We don't got no stinking Democracy!:rofl

We have a representative Republic!

There is something many don't seem to be aware of!

The framers DID NOT INTEND FOR EVERYONE TO HAVE A VOTE!!!!

It seems they had what is refereed to as a classical education.

They studied the history of Rome, Greece, etc...

They wanted to avoid the tyranny of the mass ruleing over the smaller portion of the people. So they set up the RULE OF LAW.

They wanted to avoid the fall of Rome = give the people circus's and bread for their votes.

They wanted the people that voted to be individuals that had a stake in where the wagon went. Who were pulling that wagon to chose the direction, AND those riding within and not contributing were to have no vote.

Then along comes L.B.J. and out the window .....

At least that is the understanding I have from the reading I have done. Try reading the Federalist Papers as well as the Anti-Federalist papers. They really open ones eyes!

Something else that is real good is the Preamble to the Bill of Rights!

Gadfly · « **Reply #24 on:** September 19, 2003, 08:23:16 AM »

That is right, Wrag, initally it was landowners only who were able to vote, but if they had paid any direct taxes(like income taxes) they would have used them as the measure of ability to vote, like I suggest. Of course they would have NEVER allowed such a travesty as income taxes.

Wanker · « **Reply #25 on:** September 19, 2003, 08:33:36 AM »

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I think the "test" to vote sould be taxes. If you actually pay some, you get a vote. If you just suck the teat of the public weal, you don't.

I think your "test" stinks. You probably think that the more taxes you pay, the more votes you should get!

Gadfly · « **Reply #26 on:** September 19, 2003, 08:40:21 AM »

Nope, just the fact that you pay any income taxes at all. Hey, the way some liberals claim it, this would mean the rich ouldn't vote. Everyone "knows" they don't pay any taxes, right?

Wanker · « **Reply #27 on:** September 19, 2003, 08:46:14 AM »

Actually, old bean, this liberal believes that there should be a flat tax of some kind, and we should throw out the ungodly complex tax system we all know and despise now.

Gadfly · « **Reply #28 on:** September 19, 2003, 08:58:11 AM »

Well, old cheese, we agree on that point, then.

Charon · « **Reply #29 on:** September 19, 2003, 09:34:54 AM »

I think people should be highly educated community leaders and landowners before they can vote, just like our Founding Fathers wanted.

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The Electoral College was created, most historians say, as a "check" against raw democracy. Some of the founding fathers, especially elitists like Hamilton, feared that majority rule (then a.k.a. "mob rule") would enable a popular but dangerous candidate--a demagogue--to win the presidency.

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Charon