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Offline john9001

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« on: September 18, 2003, 07:04:05 PM »
should the people born in the USA have to pass the citizenship test* before they can vote, or would that disenfranchise the stupid people?

* the test immigrants have to pass to become a citizen.
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« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2003, 07:06:31 PM »
why???


thats the worst bait ive ever seen by the way...try another forum
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Offline Tarmac

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« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2003, 07:15:38 PM »
As much as it sounds like a worthwhile idea it could turn into a "poll tax" -- meant to deprive the poor (or in this case ignorant) of the right to vote -- far too easily.
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« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2003, 07:22:34 PM »
tarmac. you are prejudging poor people to be stupid, do not confuse money/education with intelligence.
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« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2003, 07:32:21 PM »
No, just trying to use a similar event in our nation's past to draw a parallel.

Keeping "undesirables" from voting by any means (whether a tax for the poor or a test for the ignorant) would be unfairly depriving them of their right to vote.
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« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2003, 08:23:12 PM »
Dunno about unfair, but it would be depriving them of a vote.  I think the "test" to vote sould be taxes.  If you actually pay some, you get a vote.  If you just suck the teat of the public weal, you don't.
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« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2003, 08:48:55 PM »
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Originally posted by john9001
should the people born in the USA have to pass the citizenship test* before they can vote, or would that disenfranchise the stupid people?

* the test immigrants have to pass to become a citizen.


Why do you hate democracy?
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Offline Tarmac

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« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2003, 08:56:07 PM »
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Why do you hate democracy?


Lol, a counter-troll!
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« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2003, 09:21:35 PM »
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Dunno about unfair, but it would be depriving them of a vote.  I think the "test" to vote sould be taxes.  If you actually pay some, you get a vote.  If you just suck the teat of the public weal, you don't.


Hey... not bad.... not bad at all :)
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« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2003, 09:23:41 PM »
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tarmac. you are prejudging poor people to be stupid, do not confuse money/education with intelligence.


On the other hand, he could be prejudging stupid people to be poor.

It's not a bad bet.
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« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2003, 10:09:02 PM »
Please not that this thread regarding voting was posted by a Floriduh resident............
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« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2003, 11:31:26 PM »
Here are the first 10 questions for the test I wrote:

All real americans could get thru these questions in about 58 seconds.

1. Name 3 John Wayne movies.

2. Who played 1st base on the 27 Yankees?

3. Who was the first Playboy centerfold?

4. Who played 3rd base on the 69 Orioles?

5. What gun did Dirty Harry use?

6.  Name 3 Gary Cooper movies.

7.  What was the name of the a/c that delivered greetings to Nagasaki?

8.  Who was the first winner of the Indy 500?

9.  What was Patton's outfit in France?

10.  Who played Goalie for the gold medal hockey team in 1980?
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« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2003, 12:08:46 AM »
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
Here are the first 10 questions for the test I wrote:

All real americans could get thru these questions in about 58 seconds.

1. Name 3 John Wayne movies.

2. Who played 1st base on the 27 Yankees?

3. Who was the first Playboy centerfold?

4. Who played 3rd base on the 69 Orioles?

5. What gun did Dirty Harry use?

6.  Name 3 Gary Cooper movies.

7.  What was the name of the a/c that delivered greetings to Nagasaki?

8.  Who was the first winner of the Indy 500?

9.  What was Patton's outfit in France?

10.  Who played Goalie for the gold medal hockey team in 1980?


Man, I'd fail this test miserably.  I don't give a rat's bellybutton about most sports, especially sports before I was born.  I couldn't name a Gary Cooper movie.  98% of Americans couldn't tell you that Patton did his thing with the 3rd Army, or that Bock's Car dropped the egg on Nagasaki.  I know Dirty Harry carried a .44 revolver, but nothing more than that.  Never seen the movie.  A S&W maybe?  

A great example of why testing is a horrible idea.
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« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2003, 12:17:09 AM »
It was a .44 Magnum.... geez.  at least you could get that close.

and I'll give you one...  Marilyn Monroe was the first Playboy CF.

Ashcroft will be contacting you soon.
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« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2003, 12:18:14 AM »
I think we'd need different tests based on age here.  :)
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