ya,,i never tried a ati card,,they use to have such a bad rap,,now i heard geforce gots a new super card out 256mb,,is it worth the money? as for the shutter proublem,,i just heard that from a few aces high players online,,,but i have heard the radon was a cookin hot card compared to the geforce 4 ti,,,but the ti is cheap as hell right now,,with 128mb ddr,,im sure there all a big step up from the geforce 2 im using now,,lol