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[acepilot2]

Looking great............ as the panel work is going to be quite detailed

Yes I agree-the cockpits are a lot more detailed now, but they still have that cartoony look:(

[Sakai]

Originally posted by Tilt
Looking great............  as the panel work is going to be quite detailed is there any chance of the cannon bulge in the wing  being on the panel behind the cannon rather than some where  between cannon and fuselage.

Experts will correct me but i believe early MkIX's had a big fat "c" bulge and later MkIX's had a thinner bulge to the left or the right side of the panel which is more common.

After posting this note, Tilt went out and got anal.

Sakai

[Mugzeee]

Are the Spiraling Tracers supposed to be modeled after Real WW11 tracers?
I thought those Gun Cam films from Discorvery Wings just made it look that way.
Thanks

[strk]

After posting this note, Tilt went out and got anal.

was he pitching or catching?  Never mind I dont want to know

strk

[moot]

quick, someone post a picture of a player puking wine from every orifice!

[Sakai]

Originally posted by strk
was he pitching or catching?  Never mind I dont want to know

strk

I hadn't considered that excepting the whole fascination with "bulges" in "just the exact right places" thing does speak of a man who flies Pink Spitfires for the vaunted Fire Island Air Force does it not?

;-)

Sakai

[Makarov9]

'NO HAND HOLD'

Dag nabbit!

[Tilt]

Originally posted by Sakai
I hadn't considered that excepting the whole fascination with "bulges" in "just the exact right places" thing does speak of a man who flies Pink Spitfires for the vaunted Fire Island Air Force does it not?

;-)

Sakai

Even worse I fly Lavochkins.............


but leave my haemeroids out of this

[brendo]

No hand hold sure, but it doesnt mean no cup holder :-)

Looking forwards to AHII.

[Bullethead]

muckmaw said:

Having never seen a real tracer trail...I'll have to take your word for it that this is what they look like.

I never have, either, and I've shot many different MGs.  I've also been shot at by a bunch of Soviet-bloc MGs, and they didn't leave smoke trails, either.  All I've seen in real life has been the fire of the tracer element itself.  The recent war with Iraq was all on TV--how many smoke trails did you see?

The only context in which I can remember ever seeing smoke trails is in guncam film from the early war, like the BoB.  Brit tracer of that vintage, at least, left spiral smoke trails exactly as you see in these shots, although I can't recall seeing it in German film of the same vintage.  But certainly by later in the war, German guncam film doesn't show the smoke, and I can't think of any US guncam flim that does.  And this applies to film from ground battles and light ack vs. air attack as well.

So it seems to me that smoke trails existed early in the war, at least for the Brits.  But it didn't take long for everybody to develop smokeless tracers, which is what we still have today.

[Lazerus]

But hell, they look cool.

[Slash27]

I remember a very vivid clip of a German fighter tearing the hell out of a B-17. He seemed to be taking his sweet time about doing it aswell. Surely you guys know which one Im talking about?  As far as Allied gun film, I just happned to catch "Midway" on the other night on dont recall any distinct smoke trails. Wasnt looking though. Wonder if the tracers can be modeled for different guns or is that a little overboard?

[icemaw]

Just watched a discovery wings program. Titled gunships showed gun cams from stukas and il2's both had spiral smoke trails.

[Octavius]

Originally posted by Lazerus
But hell, they look cool.

I mentioned this at the con and I'll say it again... the tracers remind me of spiderman's webbing

I dont get to enjoy the goodness though, I fly without tracers =]

[Janov]

I guess the smoketrails help a lot with aiming for some people, since its impossible to perceive depth on a monitor. So it might be a gameplay concession.
As for spirals... I guess a lot of people dont take  the inevitable shaking of the guncamera (from the vibration of the plane) into account. On  a lot of gunfootage the tracers appear as little dumbels or dashes, which comes from the camera shaking in its mounting. Thats what could make smoketrails appear as snaking lines.
Then again the rounds rotate as they leave the barrel, so especially the larger calibers could leave a spiraling smoketrail. One would have to ask a veteran about that, I guess...

Looking forward to AHII,

Litjan

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