Author Topic: Audio of Lancaster under nightfighter attack (Read 5935 times)

Batz · « **Reply #30 on:** September 27, 2003, 07:14:33 AM »

You can blindly except it as "real" if you want but dont try to tell folks who know it isnt real that it is. Its 100% fake. Its not new, its been around many times. Its been shown to be a fake many times.

But whatever gets you through.

TigerStolly · « **Reply #31 on:** September 27, 2003, 07:52:46 AM »

Nobody seems to have any proof either way.

In your opinion its fake, maybe because it does not fit with your preconcieved notions of what it really should sound like but unless you were actually a WWII Lancaster crew member you don't actually KNOW its fake any better than i KNOW its authentic.

It was technically possible to record audio in flight and it was done for operational reasons its not impossible that someone recorded the intercom.

So basically untill there is proof presented all we have is opinions.

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If it IS fake then what was it done for ? A film ? A game ?

Which film ? What game ?

I'm sure between us we have played every game and watched every film that deals with this subject. Does ANYONE recognise it ?

Unless you think someone spent time and money doing this as a prank to fool poor unsuspecting flight sim players.

MRPLUTO · « **Reply #32 on:** September 27, 2003, 08:24:01 AM »

I'm not blindly accepting this recording as anything.

I haven't seen any arguments that prove the recording is fake.

On the other hand, it hasn't been proven authentic either.

Batz says it's been around many times and shown to be fake, so someone should be able to come up with a link to something conclusive.

I'll try to spend some time later today doing some searches.

MRPLUTO

AHGOD · « **Reply #33 on:** September 27, 2003, 09:22:18 AM »

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Originally posted by Batz

But whatever gets you through.

Usually a nice woman that likes to play twister.

Btw Wot, ROFL.

mora · « **Reply #34 on:** September 27, 2003, 12:24:07 PM »

Lets suppose it's a fake. Just imagine the amount of work, time and money, that this thing took? Voices and actors sound very real indeed. And if someone really did this, wouldn't he be spreading it everywhere on the web? Yet this is only the second time I have encountered this recording.

mora · « **Reply #35 on:** September 27, 2003, 12:37:04 PM »

If this recording was american, which it obviously is not, then I might tend to believe that it is a fake. After all you managed to fool the whole world with your moon landing.

Pooh21 · « **Reply #36 on:** September 27, 2003, 12:38:51 PM »

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Originally posted by AHGOD
Somebody set up us the bomb?

indeed all your base belong to us

Jumpp · « **Reply #37 on:** September 27, 2003, 01:10:39 PM »

Batz: Its 100% fake. Its not new, its been around many times. Its been shown to be a fake many times.

Cool. I always love reading about hoaxes. Got a link?

Dowding · « **Reply #38 on:** September 27, 2003, 02:00:46 PM »

As a Brit, something doesn't ring true about those accents. Can't quite put my finger on it. Sounds like the stereotypical upper-class Eton type officers with a token working-class cockney for the rank and file gunner.

And like Batz says - you can hear the guns a clear as day, yet when the pilot speaks, the four merlins sat a few feet from his head are at best a barely audible hum? Something doesn't ring true.

And the fact that 'bomb aimer' is not used at all is a bit of a giveaway, as has been pointed out.

Rutilant · « **Reply #39 on:** September 27, 2003, 02:03:00 PM »

"Bombadier" proves it's false? If that's all you have to go on then..

If this WAS sudio recording, you think they'd leave the engines out? if anything this just proves it's authenticity

GScholz · « **Reply #40 on:** September 27, 2003, 02:06:03 PM »

The magnetic interference from the engines sounds right to me.

Dowding · « **Reply #41 on:** September 27, 2003, 02:09:00 PM »

Bombadier is an American term - the RAF said 'Bomb aimer'. Back then, it would be like the difference between gasoline and petrol.

I'll ask a friend of mine who actually flew on Lancs during WW2, when I next see him. I'll play him the recording and ask him about the bombadier/bomb aimer thing. If I remember, I'll post to this thread. I'm sure he was in the situation depicted in this clip several times during his time with Bomber Command.

Batz · « **Reply #42 on:** September 27, 2003, 02:58:00 PM »

if the side gunner is firing why do you hear the guns firing while the "skipper" is talking. The side gunner sits right behind 2 engines. If you here 303s firing you damn sure would hear the eng. You arent in an enclosed insolated space.

Hell jug and p51 pilots never or rarely heard their 6 / 8 50s fire over the eng.

"Sounds about right to me" lol gimme a break. Its fake.

ps I have read and heard various raf bomber crews being interviewed not once did I hear or read any reference to bambadier, its been "bomb aimer". I linked 3 lanc crew links and I can link more.

davidpt40 · « **Reply #43 on:** September 27, 2003, 03:33:32 PM »

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if the side gunner is firing why do you hear the guns firing while the "skipper" is talking. The side gunner sits right behind 2 engines. If you here 303s firing you damn sure would hear the eng. You arent in an enclosed insolated space.

What are you talking about? The lancaster doesn't even have side gunners. The tail gunner is firing.

TigerStolly · « **Reply #44 on:** September 27, 2003, 03:41:30 PM »

I think Batz just made it clear he's not an expert in this area