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Offline Batz

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« Reply #45 on: September 27, 2003, 04:37:11 PM »
it wasnt the tail gunner it was the "mid gunner" which was just a typo on my part. Either way its still fake.

Tiger is that your site its on? or your squads?

http://www.stolly.org.uk

If so tell us where you got it. I mean if its real amd on the web then where the story behind it.

This was on this board way back, you will have to search because this forum changed over and it may have been lost, it was on simhq a   long time agao as well and that forum has changed so you may not find it.

Go post it on AAW or at nightbomer.com they will tell you its fake, because it is. No typo I made will make it real.
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« Reply #46 on: September 27, 2003, 05:06:09 PM »
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Somebody set up us the bomb?


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...]aircraft laden with bombs and fuel.


LOL
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Offline TigerStolly

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« Reply #47 on: September 27, 2003, 05:11:13 PM »
It was posted on the WWIIOL Hanger forum ages ago.  I lost that one but i did a search for it on Google and found it on a site that had various audio clips from 1940's.

I put it on my webspace for safe keeping, as well as my local hard disk.

The site i got it from labelled it as a 1943 recording of a Lancaster over Berlin.

btw.....

BBC reporters flew with Lancasters and made recordings of the crew.

Perhaps this is one of these recordings.

Here is a guy talking about it

BBC war reporters

The famous reporter Richard Dimbleby also flew 20 missions with the RAF one of them was this one on 17/18 January 1943


"An observer of this raid was Richard Dimbleby, the BBC broadcaster, who flew in a 106 Squadron Lancaster piloted by Wing Commander Guy Gibson."

RAF Website.  BBC reporter halfway down

I can't find that recording but i did find another one of him observing a Spitfire strike from the air on D-Day

D Day website
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« Reply #48 on: September 27, 2003, 05:21:29 PM »
I found this recording here, it lists it as

1943-09-03 BBC Lancaster Bomber Crew Over Berlin

WWII recordings

Its free on Radio 365 if you want to listen to it.

If its a fake then its fooled these people as well.

What do you think ?  All the rest of the stuff i am listening sure sounds real.
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« Reply #49 on: September 27, 2003, 05:32:48 PM »
Pilot - Flight Lieutenant George Henry Ebert DFC RAF
2nd Pilot aboard for experience - Wing Commander Ashley Duke Jackson MiD* RAF
Flight Engineer - Sergeant Bernard Owen Greenhill RAF
Navigator - Flight Sergeant Fred Thomas Murray Sidebotham RAFVR
Air Bomber -Flying Officer Peter Noel Hodgson RAFVR
Wireless Operator - Flight Sergeant Jack Thomas Toplis RAFVR
Mid Upper Gunner - Sergeant Aubrey Harris Miller RAFVR
Rear Gunner - Flight Sergeant Alfred John Simmons RAFVR  

Aircraft took off from RAF Spilsby in Lincolnshire 2357. Crashed in the target area, crew all killed. It is believed that all were buried locally on 12 January, since when their remains have been transferred to Poznan Old Garrison Cemetery.  F/L Ebert had logged at least 23 operational sorties. Wg Cdr Jackson had been attached for operational experience ahead of being given command of another squadron.   It was in this aircraft 'F for Freddie' that Wynford Vaughn Thomas did a trip to Berlin on 3 Sep 1943 to make the famous BBC recording, broadcast in the Home Service on 4th September 1943 and many times since, of a Lancaster crew on a bombing raid.  This included the shooting down of an attacking fighter.

http://www.rafinfo.org.uk/airsearch/units.htm



L-R: Charles Stewart (F/E), Ken Letford (Pilot), Wynford Vaughan-Thomas (BBC Correspondent), Bill Bray (B/A). These were some of the principal guests of those who met at RAF Northolt in September 1983 to commemorate the 40th anniversary of the BBC recording made of EM-F's trip to Berlin on 3 Sep 1943. George Mitchell, of 207 Sqn at Northolt, can be seen on the left. It was on this occasion that the idea of forming an Association took firm root. [source: Ron Winton]

http://www.207squadron.rafinfo.org.uk/who.html



WYNFORD VAUGHAN THOMAS Radio Commentator and Author 1908-1987
A Welshman who thrived in radio's "new kingdom of talk". Joined the BBC in 1937 and rose to fame with his wartime reports. Covered a Lancaster bomber's night raid on Berlin, the Allied entry into Rome and Montgomery's crossing of the Rhine. Awarded the Croix de Guerre in 1945. Turned freelance, but continued to broadcast extensively in a wide range of BBC programmes.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/thenandnow/history/1980sn2.shtml
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« Reply #50 on: September 27, 2003, 05:35:43 PM »
That would appear to settle that then.


Well found GScholz.
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« Reply #51 on: September 27, 2003, 05:41:46 PM »
Bombadier isn't sufficient to say it is fake.  The RAF may have used the term Bomb Aimer but Bombadier goes back years in the Army and if the pilot was used to dealing with Army or relatives etc.... see, you just don't know either way.

Anyway, nice recording, I honestly don't know either way if it is fake or not.  Still good tho.
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« Reply #52 on: September 27, 2003, 05:42:41 PM »
It's real.
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« Reply #53 on: September 27, 2003, 06:14:21 PM »
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It's real.


Not when you see scar marks underneath them ;)
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« Reply #54 on: September 27, 2003, 06:28:49 PM »
I blame Chris ....... :p

That settles that, good find GScholz.

:p
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« Reply #55 on: September 27, 2003, 06:42:37 PM »
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Not when you see scar marks underneath them ;)


Yes, I've noticed that ;)
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« Reply #56 on: September 27, 2003, 06:44:41 PM »
Tune in next week for "GScholz - The Moon Landings.  Proof they really happened" :D
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« Reply #57 on: September 27, 2003, 06:48:01 PM »
A small step for man, a giant leap for ... me! - GScholz on the Moon, next on "Towntalk". :D
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« Reply #58 on: September 27, 2003, 08:28:10 PM »
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I blame Chris ....... :p

That settles that, good find GScholz.

:p


Bah I always get blamed.  If it wasn't for those meddlin kids I would have got away with it.
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« Reply #59 on: September 28, 2003, 05:31:50 AM »
Awesome find GScholz!
(Anyway, I took this for authentic, - it was just so normal)
As for the recordings, - wouldn's the recorder have been in the mid/aft plane, partly wired into the intercom?
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