Robert Novak going to be indicted??

[Mini D]

Originally posted by miko2d
Mini D: 1) By default, any ambassador/wife/familly is a CIA agent.  This is simply accepted by everyone.

 That may be the common public opinion but it's not really the truth. Intelligent people know it - including the adversaries. It may not make a difference to a McDonald's employee whether he knows that an ex-ambassador's wife is an active CIA operative, but it surely matters to people she was working against.

 Besides, Novak did not say "Joseph Wilson's wife". He said "...Valerie Plame, is an Agency operative on weapons of mass destruction."
 It is not a common knowlege "simply accepted by everyone" that a lady named Valerie Plame is a wife of an ex-ambassador Joseph C. Wilson.

This means what where?  How much of the public knows who she is?  How many more know her as the ambassador's wife?

And... every transaction with diplomats is documented and submitted to the inteligence agencies.  This is common knowledge to anyone.  There is a reason they are asked to leave countries during conflicts.

2) Naming the wife as a CIA agent does not name the operatives.  Either they were not killed, or it was for a different reason.

 It can't be healthy to some people seen in a company of Valerie Plame over the last few years...

Once again... see the above.  If she was an ambassador's wife... it doesn't matter.  This would be an assumption anyways.  Besides, the report being cited "absolves" the host country, it doesn't condemn it.

3) The wife's name being mentioned in a news report is one thing, continuing the whole contreversy through the media is another.

 I would be royally pissed off is someone's political tinkering intended to hurt my spouse cost me a career. If I were that Valerie Plame or Joseph Wilson himself, I'd be raising a storm as well.

Yep... I would too.  But I wouldn't be trying to do it throught the press.  This is reaks of political posturing as opposed to genuine concern.

MiniD

[Rude]

Originally posted by k2cok
Ambassador Joseph Wilson revealed on August 29 the identity of the leaker (to the Washington Post) that Wilson’s wife is a CIA agent of 26 years.

Her team was tasked with WMD proliferation issues.

As a consequence of this leak, her entire team of overseas assets were liquidated. (70 agents)

The leaker, it turns out was Karl H. Rove, White House advisor.

Looks like the Bush team is following in Clintons foot steps, except they are not "downsizing" the intelligence apparatus by firing people.

They just get them killed.  

Let's have a source for your tall tale

[Rude]

Originally posted by Erlkonig
Nobody has answered my question.  All Bush has to do is make a couple phone calls to find out who the leakers are, and have them fired.  We don't need an expensive investigation on the part of the Justice department.  What's he trying to hide?

Why don't you know? Bush's secret police are at this very moment, working to toake over our nation and execute all the left wing whacko's....flee....flee as fast as you can.

[Udie]

Originally posted by Rude
flee....flee as fast as you can.

 yes please do!  Don't worry about taking anything with you!  Just get the hell out,  PLEASE!  

[Udie]

pretty good article on the subject


 This Wilson charactor is starting to look like another democrat hack out to get the president.  He knows his job will be easy since the dems will convict Bush of anything before a trial or hearing or before the end of the news broadcast.

[Rude]

Originally posted by Udie
pretty good article on the subject


 This Wilson charactor is starting to look like another democrat hack out to get the president.  He knows his job will be easy since the dems will convict Bush of anything before a trial or hearing or before the end of the news broadcast.

Lies I tell you...all lies!!!

[muckmaw]

Good Article, Udie.

Thanks.

[Erlkonig]

Originally posted by Rude
Why don't you know? Bush's secret police are at this very moment, working to toake over our nation and execute all the left wing whacko's....flee....flee as fast as you can.

Ah, yes, much as I expected - nothing but smoke & mirrors and hand-waving from the staunchest pro-Bush-ites.

[Erlkonig]

Originally posted by Udie
pretty good article on the subject


 This Wilson charactor is starting to look like another democrat hack out to get the president.  He knows his job will be easy since the dems will convict Bush of anything before a trial or hearing or before the end of the news broadcast.

So let me get this straight: the problem is not that two high-level aides in the Bush administration compromised national security in order to spite a public opponent of Bush's WMD claims, but that the opponent in question is actually a latent Bush-hater.  Amazing.

BLAME WILSON! DETH TO DEMOCRATZ!  <--- haha isn't that so funny and witty

[Udie]

Originally posted by Erlkonig
So let me get this straight: the problem is not that two high-level aides in the Bush administration compromised national security in order to spite a public opponent of Bush's WMD claims, but that the opponent in question is actually a latent Bush-hater.  Amazing.

BLAME WILSON! DETH TO DEMOCRATZ!  <--- haha isn't that so funny and witty

 You make too many ASSumptions.  I'd like for you to point out where I said any of the drivel that you posted above.  I think you're going to have a hard time.  Like I said earlier,  I'm in wait and see mode.  I will hold my elected official responsible UNLIKE the democrats and clinton.  So go crawl back in your little hole,  you can't convict Bush yet as much as you'd like to.  Dang too bad we have that constitution huh?


 you might try studying both sides of the story.

[Udie]

'In July I was interviewing a senior administration official on Ambassador Wilson's report when he told the trip was inspired by his wife, a CIA employee working on weapons of mass destruction. Another senior official told me the same thing. As a professional journalist with 46 years experience in Washington I do not reveal confidential sources. When I called the CIA in July to confirm Mrs. Wilson's involvement in the mission for her husband -- he is a former Clinton administration official -- they asked me not to use her name, but never indicated it would endanger her or anybody else. According to a confidential source at the CIA, Mrs. Wilson was an analyst, not a spy, not a covert operator, and not in charge of an undercover operatives'



make of it what you will.  just another piece of the new puzzle

[Lance]

I read that article, and I briefly looked through the author's other articles.  All are pro-conservative/anti-democrat editorials.  This Clifford D. May character is starting to look like another conservative hack out to protect the conservative movement at all costs.

For those of you wanting an independent investigation, it doesn't look good.

[john9001]

it seems the neo-liberals are looking for WMD's (words of mass destruction) to get rid of bush.

[strk]

pretty good article on the subject

let the spin begin!!!



pass the popcorn

Ive got a 6 foot erection because this thread has gotten so long!! my first thread too, I think (after a couple years of lurking)


strk

[Manedew]

Originally posted by Krusher
It was not about a blow job, it was about lying during testimony over a sexual harassment case. (A case he settled btw)

Ummm it's what is commonly called a half-truth .... technicaly he didn't lie, but it was designed to mislead.   He really didn't have sex with her .... a BJ isn't sex... logicaly he wasn't lieing.  

Your spliting hairs with this kinda deal ....  is purgery intention now?  You can plead the 5th about hanious crimes but yet it's alright for them to question him about a private relationship?

Really watch what people say .... I don't belive in slaughtering people because you 'mis-heard' them or asked wrong .... examineing intentions boarders on thought crime