Author Topic: Rush gets crucified by Sports press for McNabb comments (Read 2539 times)

DmdNexus · « **Reply #30 on:** October 01, 2003, 08:28:53 AM »

From the words I hear from Rush's own mouth, and the party plank and voting records of the Republicans...

My analysis is simple... the "R" in Rush and the "R" in Republican stands for "R"acist fundamental zealots.

But hey that's just my liberal treasonist Al-Queda loving communist un-American French-Loving opinion.

I guess I should move to another country now.

lazs2 · « **Reply #31 on:** October 01, 2003, 08:46:44 AM »

haven't watched sports in years... guess all I'm missing is a bunch of PC wussies...
lazs

gofaster · « **Reply #32 on:** October 01, 2003, 08:47:08 AM »

If you want to see McNabb's future, just remember what happened to Randall Cunningham.

Sixpence · « **Reply #33 on:** October 01, 2003, 08:57:04 AM »

He is smart, you have to give him that. It also shows the money that's behind him. He got his own spot on ESPN NFL Countdown. I thought when they first announced it, he was going to sit with the rest of them for a few minutes and get in a word or two. He has his own desk and commentary segment of the show.

Now he has to be controversial, or he won't sell. I'm wondering how his contract with the show is worded. There may be nothing they can do about him (this isn't an NFL contract, they can't release him). I'm sure there must be a buy out on the contract for ESPN to get out ( maybe twice that it cost for Rush to be on the show?

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lazs2 · « **Reply #34 on:** October 01, 2003, 08:57:36 AM »

yeah... blacks are just as good a quarterbacks and swimmers as white guys and there is nothing special about their running ability.

we are all exactly the same with no genetic or racial traits.
lazs

Raubvogel · « **Reply #35 on:** October 01, 2003, 09:07:15 AM »

You forgot to put this at the end of your post lazs

Fatty · « **Reply #36 on:** October 01, 2003, 09:19:45 AM »

I guess he should have used the PC racist term, "street cred."

Lance · « **Reply #37 on:** October 01, 2003, 09:36:21 AM »

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It's funny, but ever since the year "Jimmy the Greek" was fired, the NFL has been out to prove they weren't racist by driving teams to have a black quarterback, coaching staff, management and even a black owner. This has not been a covert effort.

I don't see this at all. Other than the very recent "You must interview a black coaching candidate" thng, what overt efforts have there been by the NFL to promote blacks as QB's, coaches, owners on anything but merit and/or marketability? Maybe I missed it.

I read an article with Steve Sabol of NFL films. He was talking about Michael Vick and how great it was to be making highlight films of him. He mentioned a game they had their cameras at and about how they were able to get a dozen truly breathtaking plays. This is why you see someone like Michael Vick promoted. Because he is good, potentially great, and capable of doing something on the football field that boggles the mind. Not because he is black. McNabb is in the same boat, with somewhat less breathtaking play ability.

Owners want to see their QB's succeed period. I don't think color enters their mind at all. If the QB can't produce, he will be benched, and he will get cut if he completely sucks ala Akili Smith. There is too much money invested in these teams for the owners to try and promote a social agenda. Hell, they already break their black coach interview rule because of this.

Sandman · « **Reply #38 on:** October 01, 2003, 09:39:15 AM »

Let's see... In Limbaugh's opinion McNabb is overrated. I won't argue it. My opinion of McNabb is irrelevant.

Second...

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"The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well," he said, adding that he also thinks the media, which Limbaugh considers liberal, want black coaches to do well.

No real argument with this statement either. There are plenty of people that have spoken about this perceived disparity. It seems obvious to me that when you look at the sidelines and the coaching staff, the white guys are the ones making the decisions. The black guys are the ones on the field. Certainly, one can cite exceptions to this, but overall, I think it's accurate.

Rude · « **Reply #39 on:** October 01, 2003, 10:00:16 AM »

Hey Sandman....this has nothing to do with the truth of his statements, but rather the politics of some on this board....so stop trying to be reasonable and start bashing Rush and the Republicans.

Some of you guys are wound too tight.

Mini D · « **Reply #40 on:** October 01, 2003, 10:04:07 AM »

Lance, you are a tard.

The league has been promoting minorities in every position of "leadership" including quarterback. The fact that you haven't seen it means you just haven't been paying attention. They even insisted that searches be conducted for minority owners (preferably black) for any team going up on the sales block. Once racism is highlighted (Jimmy the Greek) it has to be "adressed".

As for Vick, you might notice I didn't mention him in the "over-rated" category. I think he's an excellent quarterback... but we'll see if his first broken leg affects his dedication to the scramble and if his in-the-pocket game is as solid as his mobile one. The thing is, I get the feeling that McNabb and Culpepper ride the "looks just like him" category with the minor exception that they don't make good passing decisions on a regular basis. It could be because they are black, but I think it's more that they are so similar to him in physical build and ability. It's just that people have forgotten that ability is only part of the equation.

Of course McNabb and Culpepper were around before Vick... but it seems like everyone has been wanting one of the "ultimate" quarterbacks to finally get over that decision making hump that normally hangs them up. I guess I'm just getting tired of hearing quarterbacks reffered to as "fine physical specimens"... translating to "they must be good quarterbacks."

MiniD

Yeager · « **Reply #41 on:** October 01, 2003, 10:07:19 AM »

Limbaugh is intelligent, relatively speaking........

Sandman · « **Reply #42 on:** October 01, 2003, 10:09:14 AM »

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Originally posted by Rude
Hey Sandman....this has nothing to do with the truth of his statements, but rather the politics of some on this board....so stop trying to be reasonable and start bashing Rush and the Republicans.

Well... I might find disagreement with Limbaugh's conclusion that McNabb is in the position because of his color, but it's just an opinion. Again, not really worth arguing about.

Rude · « **Reply #43 on:** October 01, 2003, 10:13:49 AM »

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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
Well... I might find disagreement with Limbaugh's conclusion that McNabb is in the position because of his color, but it's just an opinion. Again, not really worth arguing about.

Agreed

Sandman · « **Reply #44 on:** October 01, 2003, 11:16:56 AM »

It's really just two sides of the same coin.

One will say that there is not enough minority represenation in company X. The other will say that so and so was less qualified, but hired/advanced for ethnic/racial "balance".

That said, if you as an employer don't offer the same opportunity to your employees regardless of their gender, color, culture, religion, sexual preference, etc. you deserve the lawsuit you're going to get.

This liberal thinks that affirmative action is racist and that there is no such thing as beneficial racism.