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Offline Gunslinger

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UH OH libbies and bush haters...tax cuts are working
« on: October 01, 2003, 05:15:15 PM »
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/business/article/0,1299,DRMN_4_2309202,00.html

The associated press story...here's some highlights:

America's consumers - flush with tax cuts that left them with extra cash in their wallets - ratcheted up their spending by a strong 0.8 percent in August, helping to power an economic resurgence.

The advance in spending reported by the Commerce Department on Monday came on top of an even bigger 0.9 percent increase in July as larger paychecks and other incentives from President Bush's third tax cut began to take hold.


The August spending figure was in line with economists' expectations.

"It was almost like Christmas in August," said Richard Yamarone, economist with Argus Research Corp. "Consumers are really supporting the expansion with a voracious appetite for spending." On Wall Street, stocks moved higher. The Dow Jones industrials gained 67 points and the Nasdaq 32 on Monday.

Meanwhile, Americans' disposable incomes, or what's left after taxes, increased 0.9 percent in August, following a 1.5 percent jump in July.

The government attributed much of the increase in disposable incomes in July and August to the president's tax cut, which lowered federal tax withholdings, boosting people's take-home pay.

Excluding the tax impact, disposable incomes increased by a more modest 0.3 percent in July and 0.2 percent in August.

The spending and income figures are not adjusted for price changes.

Consumer spending accounts for roughly two-thirds of all economic activity in the United States. Because of that, the behavior of shoppers is a major factor in shaping the economy's recovery.

Consumers are keeping their pocketbooks and wallets sufficiently open to keep the nation's cash registers humming and the economic rebound chugging forward.

The economy grew at a 3.3 percent rate in the second quarter of this year, and economists are predicting that it is now gaining even more momentum.

Many analysts think the economy is growing at a rate in excess of 5 percent in the current quarter and should be able to maintain growth above 4 percent in the final three months of the year.

That forecast, if correct, would represent the strongest back-to- back growth rates since the last two quarters of 1999.

Still, analysts caution that they have predicted second-half economic rebounds for three years that have failed to happen as consumers and companies grew cautious - concerned about their own financial situations as well as the economy's future.

Near rock-bottom short-term rates along with the latest round of tax cuts are helping to support consumer spending and offsetting the negative impact of a sluggish job market, economists say.

In August, businesses slashed jobs for the seventh month in a row. And, more recently, claims for unemployment benefits have remained stubbornly high.

The savings rate in August was the best showing since February.




WOW these tax cuts are sure hurting our economy if the AP is saying things are looking better.  The author must not have got the memo that "tax cuts hurt the economy".:lol

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« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2003, 05:47:41 PM »
I wonder what we are going to do next quarter?  cut taxes again?  Am I geting another check in the mail?  Oh and was this the 400$ per child tax cut that went out to everyone who paid taxes or was it the tax cut for the rich giving us some supply side voodoo trickle down??


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« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2003, 05:51:20 PM »
Whoopee, a jobless recovery.

Yehaw.

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« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2003, 05:54:03 PM »
We've technically been in a recovery since 2001.

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« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2003, 05:55:31 PM »
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We've technically been in a recovery since 2001.




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« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2003, 05:56:51 PM »
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« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2003, 06:07:33 PM »
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Meanwhile, Americans' disposable incomes, or what's left after taxes, increased 0.9 percent in August, following a 1.5 percent jump in July.



Heh, do the math--if you have 50k of gross and after 25% taxes (12.5K) you have 37.5K net. Point oh-nine percent of that a month comes to a whopping $28.12.

Gonna go out and buy me a boat. :rolleyes:

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« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2003, 06:16:31 PM »
How can anyone be against a tax cut (in any shape and form) is beyond me.

Starve the f* beast which is eating us alive. 80-90 % of things they spend the money on is unconstitutional.


Yeah, I know, I know, but if f* "feels" good, so screw the Constitution.

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« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2003, 06:23:18 PM »
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Originally posted by mietla
How can anyone be against a tax cut (in any shape and form) is beyond me.

Starve the f* beast which is eating us alive. 80-90 % of things they spend the money on is unconstitutional.


Yeah, I know, I know, but if f* "feels" good, so screw the Constitution.


It's all about buying votes. The more tax money, the more votes ya can buy.
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« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2003, 06:36:01 PM »
Who needs jobs with this wonderful utopia johnson created.

free health care for all, quality health care for none!
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« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2003, 06:42:44 PM »
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It's all about buying votes. The more tax money, the more votes ya can buy.


Exactly. I just pity those doofuses who buy this crap. "Soke the rich" they say.

Oh yeah? this simply means that they admit thay can't achieve anything in their lives, and just plan on staying losers for life.

Good for you...

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« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2003, 06:49:27 PM »
your right, lets cut the head off the largest tax spending beast. Cut all funds to all military expiditions right now.

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« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2003, 06:52:45 PM »
Sounds great.

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« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2003, 06:56:57 PM »
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your right, lets cut the head off the largest tax spending beast. Cut all funds to all military expiditions right now.


Read the Constitution some time. The military is one of the very few legitimate jobs the feds are obligated to fund.

Besides, look at some numbers dude, the military spending is less than 10-15%. The rest is just pissed away.

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« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2003, 07:00:39 PM »
"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of
government. It can only exist until the voters
discover that they can vote themselves largesse
(generous gifts) from the public treasury. From that
moment on, the majority always votes for the
candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury, with
the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy,
(which is) always followed by a dictatorship."

"The average age of the world's greatest civilization
has been two hundred years. These nations have
progressed through this sequence. From bondage to
spiritual faith; from spiritual faith to great
courage; from courage to liberty; from liberty to
abundance; from abundance to complacency; from
complacency to apathy; from apathy to dependence;
from dependence back into bondage."