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Offline Sixpence

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« Reply #60 on: October 02, 2003, 12:40:03 PM »
Making a racial statement does not make you a racist. People say dumb things sometimes, especially during the heat of an argument. Do I think Rush should apologize because he is feeling the heat? No. But I do think he should apologize because it is the decent thing to do as a human being.
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« Reply #61 on: October 02, 2003, 12:55:43 PM »
Rush isn't going anywhere...


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« Reply #62 on: October 02, 2003, 12:57:12 PM »
This whole thing reminds of the time Roseanne Barr screeched out the National Anthem at a baseball game, then spat and grabbed her crotch.  She was lambasted and justifiably so.  Most people thought that the National Anthem was not the proper venue for comedy.  And many thought she was being deliberately disrespectful, which she probably wasn't.  People asked "what do you expect when you ask a comedienne to sing the national anthem?"  But she suffered for it and she deserved to, that's a risk you take when you make your living by entertaining millions, and you blow it.  

Rush brought race into a discussion where most people just don't want it.  The merits of what he said about the media don't matter, pro football as entertainment is a place where people leave those issues behind.  He should have left that kind of opinion for his talk show, and stuck to football for the ESPN show.  Now people ask "what do you expect when you ask a political talkshow host to give his opinions about football?"  He blew it, and he deserves what he got.

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« Reply #63 on: October 02, 2003, 01:05:43 PM »
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Rush brought race into a discussion where most people just don't want it.  The merits of what he said about the media don't matter, pro football as entertainment is a place where people leave those issues behind.  He should have left that kind of opinion for his talk show, and stuck to football for the ESPN show.  Now people ask "what do you expect when you ask a political talkshow host to give his opinions about football?"  He blew it, and he deserves what he got.

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It's a scary thing really. I find myself in agreement with Ra.


Right, wrong, whatever... it doesn't really matter. Rush had every right to say what he did, but he probably needs to consider his audience. ESPN is watched by a far more diverse crowd than just the typical "ditto head".
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« Reply #64 on: October 02, 2003, 01:11:23 PM »
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Rush brought race into a discussion where most people just don't want it.  The merits of what he said about the media don't matter, pro football as entertainment is a place where people leave those issues behind.  He should have left that kind of opinion for his talk show, and stuck to football for the ESPN show.

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I agree.
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« Reply #65 on: October 02, 2003, 01:12:18 PM »
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So you also believe that afirmative action is racist?



Absolutely.

Making decisions on how to treat people solely based on the color of their skin is wrong.

By 'color of their skin' I mean all colors.  Black, white, yellow, purple, or very badly sunburned.

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« Reply #66 on: October 02, 2003, 01:18:23 PM »
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Your opinion, but to the overall majority, it was a racial statement that was uncalled for. He apologized, Larry accepted, end of story.


Just out of curiosity, how are we defining 'overall majority?'

I see a pretty even 50/50 split in this thread and the people posting here certainly represent all walks of life.  The only people I see condemning Rush's comments are TV and radio personalities and I see the primary motivation for their statements is to avoid being the next target.

Surprise: Darwinism exists in broadcasting too - its better to be a part of the firing squad than the condemned.

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« Reply #67 on: October 02, 2003, 01:22:10 PM »
When it happened ESPN did a poll where 91% said Isaiah should apologize. I'm a big celtic fan and followed it closely at the time.
"My grandaddy always told me, "There are three things that'll put a good man down: Losin' a good woman, eatin' bad possum, or eatin' good possum."" - Holden McGroin

(and I still say he wasn't trying to spell possum!)

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« Reply #68 on: October 02, 2003, 01:46:40 PM »
"see through the white wash that's been spread over America"

The media is libral is a white wash.
Conservatives have their own media: FoxNews, 700 club, wall street journal, washingont post, much much more.

It's interesting that the Conversvatives have taken the word "Liberal" and turned it into a dirty word. And some how they get away with calling everyone who does not agree with them "librals" and some how labeling the media as libral when the majority of the media is espousing a conservative point of view. Sounds so much who the Nazi's came to power in Germany in the 1930s.

The sports writers are promoting black QBs over white QBs is a white wash.

Sadam Hussein has WMD and he is about to use them on the US so we need to go to war - that was a big white wash.

Taking a surplus and turning it into the largest deficeit and still giving the rich tax breaks - that's  a white wash.

Are most CEOs and business executives white - yes.
Are most land owners white - yes.
Are most NFL owners white - yes
Are most NBA owners white - yes
Are most rich people in America white - Yes.
Are minorities the faster growing population - yes.
Will whites in the next 50 years become the minority - yes.

Was there ever overt racism in America - yes.
How long ago was that? A little less than 30 years ago - not even a life time away.

Is there still overt racism in America - yes.

Yes I can see the white wash over America.

>>It's one thing to succeed in suppressing outspoken honesty, it's another to succeed in suppressing thought.

Is Rush going to jail for what he said? No.
Are Rush's words being ommitted from public debate - No.
Is Rush becoming an Un-person - no.
Is Rush still able to go on his talk radio and sprew his nazi right wing zealous crap - yes.

There's been no stiffling of free speach - Rush spoke his mind and he got spoken back too.

That's sounds like American freedom to me!

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« Reply #69 on: October 02, 2003, 01:49:34 PM »
nazi right wing zealous crap
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sounds just like nazi left wing zealous crap there dmdnex.

nice work wtg, big brother rush has taught you well
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« Reply #70 on: October 02, 2003, 01:56:00 PM »
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nazi right wing zealous crap
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sounds just like nazi left wing zealous crap there dmdnex.

nice work wtg, big brother rush has taught you well



nazi left wing? :confused:
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« Reply #71 on: October 02, 2003, 02:00:44 PM »
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The only people I see condemning Rush's comments are TV and radio personalities and I see the primary motivation for their statements is to avoid being the next target.


That's the funny part.  He's always made accusations that the major media organs had a leftist slant.  Well guess what, Disney/ABC/ESPN just proved him 100% correct.  I wonder if this whole job wasn't just a fishing expidition for El Rushbo?

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« Reply #72 on: October 02, 2003, 02:02:30 PM »
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Sounds so much who the Nazi's came to power in Germany in the 1930s.


And thus Godwin's Law is invoked and another tard meets my ignore list.

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« Reply #73 on: October 02, 2003, 02:11:58 PM »
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That's the funny part.  He's always made accusations that the major media organs had a leftist slant.  Well guess what, Disney/ABC/ESPN just proved him 100% correct.  I wonder if this whole job wasn't just a fishing expidition for El Rushbo?


Isn't his radio show part of the Disney/ABC networks? I know it's carried on the ABC affilliate's around here.
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« Reply #74 on: October 02, 2003, 02:12:55 PM »
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Isn't his radio show part of the Disney/ABC networks? I know it's carried on the ABC affilliate's around here.



IIRC, his radio show is part of Clear Channel.
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