C ya Rush!

[AKS\/\/ulfe]

Originally posted by DmdNexus
Are most CEOs and business executives white - yes.
Are most land owners white - yes.
Are most NFL owners white - yes
Are most NBA owners white - yes
Are most rich people in America white - Yes.

Its kind of hard to say "no" to any of the above when caucasian americans (I'm offended by being called white, do I look like a piece of paper to you? Do I blind you when the sun reflects off my tanned skin? If anything, I am more of a tan) are the majority in the US anyway.

Originally posted by DmdNexus
Are minorities the faster growing population - yes.
Will whites in the next 50 years become the minority - yes.

Interesting... so when Caucasian Americans are no longer the majority, who will be the majority? Certainly not minorities since they will no longer be the minorities. Will there be more Asian Americans than Caucasian Americans? African americans than Caucasian Americans? Spaniish Americans? Who exactly will become the majority? How does this then make whites the minority? I don't see how all current minorities will breed like rabbits and each individual group of people will outnumber Caucasian Americans.

If this happens, the US will quickly run out of room and be unable to support itself. I better start practicing on what will become the dominant language in 50 years: El US es flusho downo the draino senor.

Cracka please!
-SW

[DmdNexus]

>>I'm offended by being called white, do I look like a piece of paper to you.

I doubt you are, and I'm sure you'll live.

>> who will be the majority?

According to the census bureau, hispanics will be the majority with in 50 years.

Then the referendoms on California ballots will be whether or not to keep English as a second language on road signs and government literature.

Hola! Oblate Espanel?

[AKS\/\/ulfe]

I read that Hispanics will be the majority some time ago, hence my blurb at the end.

Unfortunately, yo no hablo espanol.
-SW

[Shuckins]

Just a few thoughts, in brief, about the Rush incident.

Did he have the right to say what he did?

Absolutely.

Should he have said it?

Probably not.

On the other hand, do we have an obligation to speak out about issues of this nature?

I would like to think so.

Is it possible to have a rational discussion about such an issue?

Are you kidding!?  Rational discourse started going the way of the dinosaur in the 1960s.  So sure have we become of our own intellectual and moral superiority that we are no longer willing to give the opposition's arguments a fair assessment.

The trial of John Peter Zenger in the early 1600s reinforced the right of Americans to say whatever they wanted, as long as it was true.  That should be the litmus test for the type of statements made in this incidence.  If discussion of discrimination in the hiring of coaches and managers is considered to be a reasonable topic, then why not a discussion that approaches the issue from the opposite direction?

Perhaps he should have known better.  Most of us, even if we had believed as he did, would not have given voice to such a belief in front of a microphone.  We would have known full well the fury that it would unleash.

But that may be the central issue here.  Is it really in our best interests as a nation and a people to permanently quell all negative speech?

Definitely not.

Regards, Shuckins

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[LoneStarBuckeye]

Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Great society we've built here, dont you think?  Youre free to speak your mind as long as it agrees with the current trend.  If your opinion differs from the accepted social norms (hey, I almost defined 'Liberal' there) youre free to be forced through fear of percecution to conform.  

Tocqueville recognized this about America 150 years ago.  Some things never change.

[Hornet]

Originally posted by Rude
Ah Dowding....what he said was the right on truth...here in this country, the media hypes many things for many reasons....black quarterbacks and coaches have been actively a part of the NFL and it's owners discussions for years now...the politically correct thing to do.

The media has brought and referenced many times the same point Rush made....his timing and the format were both misplaced....still, the content of what he said cannot be denied. Our media has on many occasions spoke in detail of the criticism by black athletes and coaches along with other groups regarding the inclusion of blacks in the interviewing process, etc. When one does make the position, the media pays specific attention to it.

If one can stomache the assumption that a QB that has gone to the NFC championship game 2 years in a row and finished 2nd in MVP voting can ever be considered overrated...I'm surprised that no one else on this board thought it odd that the NFL is just about the worst possible workplace in America to attempt to make a point on Affirmative Action.

There is no purer meritocracy than professional sports. Rush gives people in his profession too much credit. Black, White, Purple, if you're good you play. No one really gives a crap what the media thinks about who you start. The NFL is about 2 things, winning and money.

Now folks can cry about media bias, but bottom line is Rush absolutely picked the wrong workplace model to hang his agenda on and got clubbed like a seal pup for it. That's the market at work folks, the dweebs are supposed to be sent home with the pink slips.

[strk]

Rush brought race into a discussion where most people just don't want it. The merits of what he said about the media don't matter, pro football as entertainment is a place where people leave those issues behind. He should have left that kind of opinion for his talk show, and stuck to football for the ESPN show. Now people ask "what do you expect when you ask a political talkshow host to give his opinions about football?" He blew it, and he deserves what he got.

hot damn!  I agree with Ra.  I didnt think that would ever happen.  Maybe I was wrong about you-  pretty cogent analysis and no spin.  THis is the same conclusion that I came to.

strk

[AKIron]

I agree too, still, can't blame Rush for doing what he does. Wonder what ESPN was thinking when they hired him?