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General: 3-6 GIs die each week in Iraq
« Reply #30 on: October 03, 2003, 03:21:40 PM »
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I started  all this with conservative comments... now I'm enjoying the distorted rant...

The lies I responded to were far from conservative comments.

I understand, now, why Rush, Hannity, Anne Coulter, and O'Reilly love to froth and sprew so much... it's rather exhilerating distorting facts and being absurd.

Funny, the majority of the educated people in the world that have a clue about matters would say the same thing about you.

The truth is people who start wars never fight them, people who die in wars rarely know why.

How poetic. I'm sure the Russians at Stalingrad didn't have a clue as to why they were called to arms. I'm sure the guys that volunteered to leave their current deployments to join task units in Afghanistan didn't have a clue either.

The Iraq war is not about protecting America or ridding the world of an "evil" dictator.

What was it about then? No, wait - I know - oil and Bush's evil plan to dominate the free world.

Latin America has been waging a chemical war (drugs - weapons of mass destruction) against American's for years. We know who the governements, we know who the criminals are, and we know where they are. Yet we aren't occupying Columbia.

No occupation. Plenty of Americans involved in combat operations down there though. Americans have been KIA fighting the FARC during the past couple of years. And if you weren't so pathetically stupid, you'd see the difference between the *elected* government of Columbia, which has been fighting their own brutal war on terror for years, being supported by the USA and the Iraqi dictatorship which terrorized it's own people and supported international terrorism being removed by the Coalition. You're ready to occupy Columbia? Why? They've been fighting drugs and terrorism tooth-and-nail for more than a decade now. You give new meaning to the adjective 'uninformed'.

There are countries in Africa which have suffered far more than the Iraqi people, by far worse dictators. We're not talking hundreds of thousands of people dead (like in Iraq)... we're talking millions, brutal masacres of entire tribes, women, children, elderly, helpless people, babies ripped from the womb, be headings, rapes, every imaginable brutality one human can inflict upon another. Why aren't we taking care of those dictators?

Shhhh. Don't tell anyone but we have guys operating all over Africa (that's a joke - everyone knows this but you). A major U.S. base is located in the horn of Africa. If Africa is so horrible, why aren't you pissed at the UN for handling it? As for why Iraq and not Africa - Iraq was by far more of a direct threat to the US and world stability. Yes - a direct threat to the US. Just because you haven't read information supporting this in the 'UC Berkely People's Green Press' does not mean it doesn't exist.

Often times these conflicts are across borders - making the region unstable.

Sort of like Iraq's invasion of Kuwait?

The "moral" reason and justifications used to attack Iraq were not enough to go to war. The Bush Administration new this - because those were the conditions Congress imposed upon the War Powers act.

This administration had to lie and come up with a "Real and Present" danger (aka WMD) in order to justify this war.


Actually the initial votes in favor of military action didn't involve WMD as much as they did noncompliance with the cease fire agreements from back in '91. I am now waiting for you to tell me how Hussein was not a belligerent little bastard who tried to thwart the cease fire agreements he signed on a daily basis for 10+ years.

This adminstration new that WMD and the link to Al Queda did not exist, and yet they continued to lie.

So show me the unalterable proof that Iraq was no threat before we took action. You know - the proof provided by Hussein through total cooperation with UN inspection teams, etc.

Oh, wait - he didn't cooperate or comply in any way whatsoever. Why is this?

As for no Al-Q link - show me proof there is no link? An intercepted call to an Al-Q planner in Baghdad from an Al-Q hit team that zapped a U.S. diplomat says something, doesn't it? Before you say the Iraqis didn't know the planner was there...do some research on Iraqi internal security - services, apparatus, etc.

Iraq did not pose an immenant danger to America to justify Bush invoking the War Powers Act.

Yeah, you tell 'em 'Senator Internet'. Why in the heck aren't you running for office. You'd straigten everything out.

The Truth will be found. Bush is not that bright.. the CIA leak is a sign of that.

The sad thing is that the truth will be found, and you and your ilk will be unable to handle it, and will continue to lie - often as college professors, parents, etc. and we'll have to deal with even more morons for at least another 50 or so years.

Ignoring Al Queda for 8 months until they attacked us is a sign of that.

Ignoring? What do *you* (as opposed to people with a clue) mean by 'ignore'? Show me some proof that Al-Q was 'ignored' by the U.S. - while being led by any President - for the past 10+ years. Save yourself some time. I know you are wrong (again). Just do yourself a favor and stop lying for a couple of minutes a day.

Not working with the UN, creating a huge defeciet, the situation with N.K., a tax cut for the rich - all examles of Bush's stupidity as a leader.

Well I'm only really qualified to comment on N. Korea - but not wanting to waste time on information that you will block out to protect your massively skewed view of reality, I'll just sum up about N. Korea: "Wrong again". Your comment here though is revealing - you are a political extremist, as opposed to an educated human being. I pity you.

Bush has taken more vacation days than any other president in history - this guy is a lazy moron.

Proof on the vacation days? Even if it's true he isn't lazy. He's easily smarter and more educated than you are and he does more in a day than you do in a week.

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General: 3-6 GIs die each week in Iraq
« Reply #31 on: October 03, 2003, 03:24:50 PM »
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davidpt40: Don't try to speak for the GIs in Iraq.  They either joined the military because they wanted to see combat, or were willing to risk going to combat for the benefits (college, insurance, etc).

 I know a few who would have never enlisted if they thought they would risk being sent into conflict.

 My aquaintance's step-son was tricked by his enlistment officer to sigh for an extra year of military servce 5 instead of 4 - for a bonus sum of $3000. He was shipped to Iraq last week.

 miko


There are guys who didn't want to see combat. But there are also many who jumped at the chance. There are guys who agreed to have a couple of years tacked on to their commitments to get into Afghanistan while there was still some payback to be had.

miko what unit is he with?

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« Reply #32 on: October 03, 2003, 03:31:29 PM »
wulfie: How poetic. I'm sure the Russians at Stalingrad didn't have a clue as to why they were called to arms.

 I had relatives there. They had a very good clue - the Stalin's famous order #227 "No retreat without direct order under eny circumstances". There were KGB (NKVD) interdiction batallions set  behind the fighting line that machinegunned anyone who would retreat (after running out of ammo, for example, or being wounded or accompanying one), would not attack on command or try to surrender.

 Just a little fact that is often ommited but makes quite a difference.


So show me the unalterable proof that Iraq was no threat before we took action. You know - the proof provided by Hussein through total cooperation with UN inspection teams, etc.

 Hans Blix said that inspections were proceeding with total cooperation of Iraqi's, they were clear on everything and needed a couple of months to settle the paperwork concerning disposal of some old chemicals.
 UN is not pissed on US for unilateral action. UN is pissed because he asked for resolution from UN, got it and when Hussein unexpectedly fully cooperated, Bush still invaded.

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« Reply #33 on: October 03, 2003, 03:55:18 PM »
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I vote we pull the boys out and we install Pinochet and his crew as Presidente' and government of Iraq.


Yeah and let Kissenger be his Foreign Secretary.

Why does Wuflie post so much of nothing all the time?

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« Reply #34 on: October 03, 2003, 04:17:26 PM »
Wulf "Blitzer" is it?

>>Funny, the majority of the educated people in the world that have a clue about matters would say the same thing about you.

You now know what the majority of the people in the world would say? - LIAR.


>>The truth is people who start wars never fight them, people who die in wars rarely know why.

Give us a clue...
What danger did Iraq pose to the US's security?
There are no WMD.
Iraq - according to the Hanz Blitz - was fully co-operating with the UN.
Iraq had no deliver system to attack the US.

N.K. on the other hand....
Has the potention to have nuclear weapons.
Has said they are and will manufacture nuclear weapons
Has said they will use nuclear weapons
Has said that if the say does certain things like try to sanction N.K. via the UN, that such an action will be an act of war.

Why don't we take out N.K.?
And guess what N.K. even has missles!

Double standard.
However, I'll give you a clue.
N.K. is on the belly of China. It's not N.K. that's deterring us it's China and the Russia. China and Russia doesn't want American's to occupy a country that close to them.

>>What was it about then?
Oil? Possibily.
Could also be about showing off our weapons systems.
The US is the number one exporter of weapons in the world.
I'm sure it's about money - in one way or another it's about money.
How many Iraqi are there? Several million... that's several million potentual T-Mobile customers,
That's several million whopers, pepsi cola, Ford...
Consumers!

>>If you weren't so pathetically stupid, you'd see the difference between the *elected* government of Columbia, which has been fighting their own brutal war on terror for years

An elected corrupt government giving lip service to American support. Corrupt because judge after judge and jury after has been found to be paid off. Drug cartel king pins... under house arrest with their own guards protecting them.... and then when trial comes... they disappear.

Yeah - I think you're the one who is uninformed.

And after all this help from America, money, military, equipment... the drugs keep pouring in.... and pouring in... and addicting young Americans... thousands of Americans are dieing per year because from the pollution of drugs coming from Latin America.

It's not hard to find a cocaine farm - that's a pretty big operation.

Even our closest ally Mexico, had an Army General who order his troops to killed DEA agents (escuse me.. I misspoke Mexican Federales) during a narcotics raid. It was a massacre.

>> A major U.S. base is located in the horn of Africa.
No Chit!! Does that make you smarter than the rest of us because you know of only one base in Africa?

>>Iraq was by far more of a direct threat to the US and world stability.

How so? Give it up... I'm sure your listeners what to here the reasons.

Don't say WMD - because those have not been found.
Don't say because they had a massive and powerful military... because we saw how well their military did.
Don't say because the airforce could strike at will - because we all know they airforce was destroyed during the Gulf War.

Why is it the rest of the world... and I don't mean America and UK saw differently?

All those other educated people from many different countries - much more well informed than you and I... thought maybe diplomacy was better than war... and they couldn't find any reason for going to war with Iraq.

Share with us Mr. Educated and informed what we don't know and what the rest of the world does know.

Where was the immenant threat to US security some 10,000 miles away.

>>Hussein was not a belligerent little bastard who tried to thwart the cease fire agreements he signed on a daily basis for 10+ years.

Ah there you go again lying again. Hussein wasn't signing agreements on a daily basis for 10+ years.

I think you are exagerating.


>>Oh, wait - he didn't cooperate or comply in any way whatsoever.

Another lie. Hanz Blitz reported to the UN they were receiving full cooperation from the Iraqi..

I think you have selective memory... you only member the facts you need to justify killing thousands of people.

People did die didn't they. Not just Americans. Iraqis too.
Do you think every one of those Iraqs deserved to die?

Have you objectived a person's life to the point they are just an object of hate yet?

I don't think the common Iraq soldier had any choice over his fate - do you?

How many people died because Bush was impatient to go to war?

>>Show me proof there is no link? An intercepted call to an Al-Q...

See now you're contradicting our own intelligence sources and the white house.

Bush said there is no Iraqi Al-Q link. Is he lieing now or are you just uninformed.

By the way there are more Saudi Arabian links with Al-Q than Iraqi. Remember the majority of the hi-jackers of 9/11 were Saudis. None were Iraqi.

In Bin Laden's own words.. he hated the Iraqis - completely different religions and beliefs, completely different goals.

There is no link. Stop listening to Rush - he's a big fat idiot.

>>The sad thing is that the truth will be found, and you and your ilk will be unable to handle it, and will continue to lie

You're a fortune teller now eh? And you know how people think
Do you read minds? I think you're lying.

>> we'll have to deal with even more morons for at least another 50 or so years.

Calling people stupid and morons is hardly an educated way to discuss an issue. It shows your emotional immaturity and fustration in discussing a topic - so you have to restort to attacking  and belittling the other person rather than simply stating your point of view.

Does it make you feel better to vent? Therapy would do you good.

>>He's easily smarter and more educated than you are and he does more in a day than you do in a week.

Ah there you go again... talking about things you know nothing about. You dont' know me or Bush personally - you have no idea who is better educated or who works more each day.

You're just fabricating lies again.

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« Reply #35 on: October 03, 2003, 04:20:41 PM »
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Hans Blix said that inspections were proceeding with total cooperation of Iraqi's, they were clear on everything and needed a couple of months to settle the paperwork concerning disposal of some old chemicals.

 miko


When exactly did Blix say this? Kinda relevant don't you think?
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« Reply #36 on: October 03, 2003, 05:13:11 PM »
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There are no WMD.

Really? He destroyed them? When? Why didn't he take photos or offer evidence of such destruction? Because you are so sure there 'are no WMD', I assume you'll voluntarily quit the AH BBS if any are ever found?

Iraq - according to the Hanz Blitz - was fully co-operating with the UN.

Show me a single quote from Blix stating that Iraq was ever fully cooperating with the UN.

Iraq had no deliver system to attack the US.

He had the Mark 1 Mod 0 terrorist human being which is capable of carrying biological and/or chemical weapons.

N.K. on the other hand....
Has the potention to have nuclear weapons.
Has said they are and will manufacture nuclear weapons
Has said they will use nuclear weapons
Has said that if the say does certain things like try to sanction N.K. via the UN, that such an action will be an act of war.

Why don't we take out N.K.?
And guess what N.K. even has missles!


Yep, it has missiles...and several thousand howitzers, rocket launchers (as in rocket artillery), etc. - all within firing range of Seoul. So it's guranteed that in the first hour of war with N. Korea Seoul would effectively be hit by a nuke - in terms of tonnage of HE. When you have a large civilian populace 'under the gun' of massed artillery controlled by a madman, you need to use a little diplomacy.

Double standard.

No, just another clueless argument used by people like you.

However, I'll give you a clue.

That would be impossible. There is nothing I could learn from you with the possible exception of how to act like an uninformed idiot.

N.K. is on the belly of China. It's not N.K. that's deterring us it's China and the Russia. China and Russia doesn't want American's to occupy a country that close to them.

Really? Where'd you get your education on national security and international relations? I'd say you are dead wrong. And I know more about the subject than you ever will.

I'm sure it's about money - in one way or another it's about money. How many Iraqi are there? Several million... that's several million potentual T-Mobile customers, That's several million whopers, pepsi cola, Ford...Consumers!

Amen brother! Down with the WTO! Power to the People!

Not.

An elected corrupt government giving lip service to American support. Corrupt because judge after judge and jury after has been found to be paid off. Drug cartel king pins... under house arrest with their own guards protecting them.... and then when trial comes... they disappear.

You're living way in the past, in 'hollywood' history. The judges and juries aren't being paid off anymore - they're being killed or kidnapped by FARC terrorists. How many Colombians have you talked to in the past year? How many did you discuss the most recent Presidential candidates with? I think the answer to both is probably 'zero'. Admit it - you don't have clue #1 about Colombia. 'Drug Cartel King Pins'? LOL? You're education on world events comes from 'Miami Vice' I take it?

Please show me a single media report - from any Nation's media - stating that Columbia's current government is 'corrupt'.

Yeah - I think you're the one who is uninformed.

You can think what you want. I've been to Colombia more than once and my job involved dealing with the topic at hand. What's your background?

It's not hard to find a cocaine farm - that's a pretty big operation.

Define 'pretty big'. I've seen cocoa processing facilities of all sizes. Regardless of size, they're under heavy foliage in the center of a large enclave occupied by the FARC, which finances itself with drug $$$. After you straighten out the U.S. Government why don't you cruise on down to Colombia and set everyone straight with another of your '2 sentence solutions to any complex issue'. I don't think you can. But what do I know - I've only been there and seen what's going on first hand.

A major U.S. base is located in the horn of Africa.
No Chit!! Does that make you smarter than the rest of us because you know of only one base in Africa?


Well since you are supposedly not clueless, why don't you tell me where it is and what goes on there? And if you can tell me that, I will find your opinion that the current administration is doing 'nothing' about scumbags in Africa to be a little 'self-contradictory' to say the least. And while we're on the topic of the slaughter of innocent people in Rwanda...who was President at the time (keep in mind that I don't think the current President is 'guilty' of anything for not intervening during the most recent crisis in Rwanda - I know that such a decision involves the input of many career professionals...not just a 'let's go' by the CiC) of the most recent 'large wave of atrocities'?

How so? Give it up... I'm sure your listeners what to here the reasons.

Don't say WMD - because those have not been found.


So they never existed? When were they destroyed if they did exist? Where were they destroyed? The US has huge facilities tasked with destroying chemical weapons - they need to be elaborate in order to cleanly burn the chemical agents. Iraq has no such facilities. So if they destroyed them in a 'dirty' fashion, where is the contaminated soil? Where are the fumes?

Don't say because they had a massive and powerful military... because we saw how well their military did.

They did have a massive military. The Coalition destroyed it during a several-week-long 'Quagmire'.

Why is it the rest of the world... and I don't mean America and UK saw differently?

You forgot to include a few dozen other Nations. No big deal it's par for the course with you.

All those other educated people from many different countries - much more well informed than you and I

Speak for yourself. Your average German doesn't know 1% of what I do regarding these topics. And it wasn't the leadership of the German military that was against action in Iraq. It was the German running for political office. And his friends, who compare Bush to Hitler. Maybe you should move over there and buy them all strap-ons. You might truly be happy then.

Share with us Mr. Educated and informed what we don't know and what the rest of the world does know.

Often times the rest of the world is wrong. And if you ever read what I write on these topics...ah...nevermind.

Ah there you go again lying again. Hussein wasn't signing agreements on a daily basis for 10+ years.

The violations were taking place on a near-daily basis. I wasn't lying. The problem is that you cannot read very well.

Another lie. Hanz Blitz reported to the UN they were receiving full cooperation from the Iraqi..

Give me one quote saying that Iraq was cooperating fully. One single quote. Make sure it includes 'full cooperation' in some form please.

Calling people stupid and morons is hardly an educated way to discuss an issue. It shows your emotional immaturity and fustration in discussing a topic - so you have to restort to attacking  and belittling the other person rather than simply stating your point of view.

You call what you type on this BBS an attempt at discussion? I called you stupid and a moron because you are stupid and you are a moron. I don't have to 'resort' to 'attacking' anyone. I can state my view just fine with people actually interested in a discussion. You are not one of these people.

Ah there you go again... talking about things you know nothing about. You dont' know me or Bush personally - you have no idea who is better educated or who works more each day.

Yet you are knolwedgeable enough to claim that our President is stupid and lazy. I've worked for people that reported directly to the President (Regan, Bush Sr., Clinton). I believe I have a better idea of his daily routine than you do.

Your posts to this BBS tell me all I need to know about your intelligence and education.

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« Reply #37 on: October 03, 2003, 05:17:51 PM »
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They relying upon middle class Americans - mostly minorities to do the fighting.


This is so stupid as to make my jaw drop.   I would like DMDNExus post the statistics, the actual numbers of the ethnic origin of those fighting in Iraq.  


DMDNexus, try to avoid vomiting out old rhetoric left over from the Vietnam war days.

Better yet, if you cant say anything even close to intelligent, I suggest you say nothing at all.


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« Reply #38 on: October 03, 2003, 05:28:36 PM »
LOL the old "Anybody who served in the military 1964-1972 but didn't go to Vietnam is a draft dodger."  Wulfie why do you even bother.  Pearls, swine, etc.

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« Reply #39 on: October 03, 2003, 09:08:39 PM »
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Yeah and let Kissenger be his Foreign Secretary.

Why does Wuflie post so much of nothing all the time?


I don't know but next time you talk to the guy tell him to change his BBS ID so no one confuses him with me. :)

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« Reply #40 on: October 03, 2003, 09:36:43 PM »
It's O.K. if your confused wulfie, after all the lies and spin on Iraq by Bush and Co a majority of Americans are confused too.

Your not alone.  :lol

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« Reply #41 on: October 03, 2003, 10:12:32 PM »
I think Ozzy said it best


Quote

Generals gathered in their masses
Just like witches at black masses
Evil minds that plot destruction
Sorcerers of death's construction
In the fields the bodies burning
As the war machine keeps turning
Death and hatred to mankind
Poisoning their brainwashed minds, oh lord yeah!

Politicians hide themselves away
They only started the war
Why should they go out to fight?
They leave that role to the poor


Time will tell on their power minds
Making war just for fun
Treating people just like pawns in chess
Wait 'till their judgement day comes, yeah!

Now in darkness, world stops turning
As the war machine keeps burning
No more war pigs of the power
Hand of god has sturck the hour
Day of judgement, god is calling
On their knees, the war pigs crawling
Begging mercy for their sins
Satan, laughing, spreads his wings
ALL RIGHT NOW!

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« Reply #42 on: October 03, 2003, 10:36:02 PM »
The ignorance displayed on this subject is palpable.  Miko, sometimes you make sense, sometimes you say such stupid things.  Wulfie, you are wasting electrons trying to show facts to these children.

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« Reply #43 on: October 03, 2003, 11:04:50 PM »
Need to simplify this for you Mr. Wulfie.

You like to call names but don't answer questions.

>>Really? He destroyed them? When? Why didn't he take photos or offer evidence of such destruction?

You're the educated one... who's been everywhere, knows everything, worked for assistants to the President.

The UN didn't find any weapons - Bush's top WMD investigator didn't  find any - and now Bush can't say the Iraqis weren't co-operating, because the US military can go any where it wants to in Iraq... and has and nothing has been found.

Put up or shut up - where are the WMDs?

How about... there aren't any. They were destroyed during the first Gulf War...

probablely - yes...
possiblely - yes...

You know that just might be the correct answer, and this whole damn war was a big charade!

>>Show me a single quote from Blix stating that Iraq was ever fully cooperating with the UN.

It was in the very last report he gave the UN - go read it.
It was all over TV  - pay attention.

>>He had the Mark 1 Mod 0 terrorist human being which is capable of carrying biological and/or chemical weapons.

Well watermelon that gives us justification to kill every Iraqi on sight - they just might be a terrorist with a bomb.

It's easy to kill people when they are no longer seen as human - isn't it.

Objectify the enemy is the first step to not seeing him as human.

Who's evil now?

>>When you have a large civilian populace 'under the gun' of massed artillery controlled by a madman, you need to use a little diplomacy.

Double standard.
It's easy to stomp all over 3rd world countries when the political reprecussions are lower.

so with your reasoning that makes going to war with Iraq ok.
Yet N.K. not ok - right? Because N.K. would cause more what? Political damage right... do we really care about casualties? Do we?

I get it... it's the bully doctrine to foreign diplomacy... makes sense... that's pretty much how the world community views us now.

>>Really? Where'd you get your education on national security and international relations? I'd say you are dead wrong. And I know more about the subject than you ever will.

Oh you want to swap nation security credentials - sort of a way to bolster your point of view - that what you say is right and what I say is wrong?  

Some how I doubt you have any..  mostly because you haven't said anything.. you like to do the name calling thing and act like you know chit... which you don't.  

Oh wait, you do have a top secret compartmented SBI clearance don't you? Please tell us about it.
And you have access to SIGINT, HUMINT, ELINT and all kinds of other watermelon too - right?
You probably know USSIGs backwards and forwards.
You've worked for the CIA, NSA, NSOC, and the situation room at the white house. right?

Or are you just another DEA dweeb who thinks he's in the know?

You haven't said chit... please tell us and impress us with your secret knowledge Mr. Presidential aide.. what were you? A senate page?

You didn't answer the question....

What's the reason for the war in Iraq - there were no WMD... that was a ruse - not the real reason.

>>You can think what you want. I've been to Colombia more than once and my job involved dealing with the topic at hand.

I bet you have, probably ensuring Mr. Bush's cocaine delivery got to him?

You're still not saying anything

>>Iraq has no such facilities. So if they destroyed them in a 'dirty' fashion, where is the contaminated soil? Where are the fumes?

If they had no WMD... and if they did not destroy WMD that they didn't have....they would not need to have such facilities...

I know I'm stretching your ability to think logically here...

ok... if all that were true, then there would be no contaminated soil and there would be no fumes.. and there would be no UN sanction violations... because there were no WMD.

Got it! Is there the slightest possibility you could see that logic?

Or are you privy to secret "columbian" South African intelligence that the White house and the US Intelligence community doesn't have?

Perhaps you should call up your buddy Mr. Bush and let him in on where those WMD are... because he can't find them the coke up his nose has him in a stupor and he's stumbling over the word "subbbblimanable"

>>I've worked for people that reported directly to the President (Regan, Bush Sr., Clinton). I believe I have a better idea of his daily routine than you do.

Prove it - Name names - who did you work for and what were your job responsibilities.

Let me quess you're a butler in the senate cafeteria, or were you the shoe shine boy?

LOL

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« Reply #44 on: October 04, 2003, 02:25:12 AM »
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Need to simplify this for you Mr. Wulfie.

I've had COs and direct superiors who were involved with NSC briefings earlier in their careers. It was from them that I learned what a day in the life of the President is like. It was from them that I first learned what went into a Presidential decision on a National Security matter (in terms of the # of career professionals involved at every level of the decision making process).

I'm in the military. I hold a security clearance. I have been present in situation rooms and operations centers more than once. I work or have worked on intelligence and CT related issues. I have been to Afghanistan, Kuwait, Iraq, Pakistan and Colombia - some more than once - while serving in the military.

All of the above doesn't really matter as far as this BBS goes however, as nothing 'from work' would ever make it onto any BBS. The exception to this is situations involving first hand knolwedge that is nowhere close to sensitive/classified/etc. A good example of this is my pointing out how wrong you were when you stated that 'minorities do all the fighting'. I know this is nonsense because I have been at the location of 'the fighting' and 'I wasn't the only white guy there'. Even this personal experience isn't really required however - a couple of guys debunked you with some internet links.

I also have a M.A. in National Security Studies. I spend a great deal of my 'free' time (which is fairly limited right now) researching open source intelligence on the internet. Mainly I do this to be better at my job. An added bonus is that I can point guys who browse this BBS to good (open source) data on current issues as opposed to what CNN scrolls 24/7 or what lunatics like you spew.

So, what's your background and how is it relevant to discussions on Foreign Relations and/or National Security?

Mike/wulfie