Author Topic: It's Pathetic, really. (Read 1664 times)

SOB · « **Reply #30 on:** October 08, 2003, 01:31:29 PM »

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Originally posted by LePaul
I agree completely

I'm a bit weary of the mainstream having to accomodate those that refuse to accept that English is the official language here.

Define "here". It wouldn't be the US, since we don't have an official language. Perhaps you mean CA, where they voted for an official language, but as of yet their inept state government has done nothing to make that happen. I would support a law that made our official language English, but until there is one in place (and implimented) I think it makes sense to accomodate for a very large portion of a particular society.

BTW...That's funny in a sad way, Apathy, but it's for a mental health clinic.

Sandman · « **Reply #31 on:** October 08, 2003, 02:01:01 PM »

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Originally posted by yowser
Why would someone vote if they do not feel any of the candidates are worthy or they feel disenfrancised by the system?

That is a cop out, IMHO.

The system is what it is. You cannot affect change from the outside looking in.

LePaul · « **Reply #32 on:** October 08, 2003, 04:04:45 PM »

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Originally posted by SOB
Define "here". It wouldn't be the US, since we don't have an official language. Perhaps you mean CA, where they voted for an official language, but as of yet their inept state government has done nothing to make that happen. I would support a law that made our official language English, but until there is one in place (and implimented) I think it makes sense to accomodate for a very large portion of a particular society.

BTW...That's funny in a sad way, Apathy, but it's for a mental health clinic.

LOL

Oh sure, let's make it a law. Let's also make all sorts of common sesnse things law too while were at it

mietla · « **Reply #33 on:** October 08, 2003, 04:07:43 PM »

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Originally posted by SOB
There's no law that says you have to speak English to be a US citizen. That being the case, it makes sense to accomodate for citizens who speak other languages. Do you think they shouldn't have the right to vote because they speak a different language?

Just plain stupid. Why? It costs money you know....

There is always money to be pissed away on stupidity like that, but we are always short funding infrastructure, Police and Fire Dept.

Interesting

SOB · « **Reply #34 on:** October 08, 2003, 04:10:53 PM »

Why would it be common sense to speak English when a Spanish-speaking American can currently get all of the services he/she needs in their native tongue, and when that's what they speak in their home and with their neighbors? The system to accomodate them is already in place. If you don't like it, make it a law that English is our official language and take steps to slowly wean them off of these services and possibly provide for some help in learning English.

SOB · « **Reply #35 on:** October 08, 2003, 04:13:57 PM »

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Originally posted by mietla
Just plain stupid. Why? It costs money you know....

There is always money to be pissed away on stupidity like that, but we are always short funding infrastructure, Police and Fire Dept.

Interesting

You're right. It is stupid that this wasn't dealt with a long time ago. I think it makes sense to have one official language and to encourage that among all immigrants. However, that's not what has happened. Instead, services have been provided in their native tongue. That being the case, it would be stupid to provide translation in those other services and then cut them off when it comes to excersizing their right to vote.

mietla · « **Reply #36 on:** October 08, 2003, 04:17:05 PM »

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Originally posted by Ripsnort
The last sentence was the real winner in the "Makes no sense at all" contest.

All "Makes no sense at all" sentences are equally non-sensical by definition. If you can't understand them, how would you decide which one is more stupid that another.

Unless you consider the author and his "credentials" of course....

midnight Target · « **Reply #37 on:** October 08, 2003, 04:17:40 PM »

LOL... that was sooooo stinky sandman, and yet... successful!

~36million PEOPLE in CA. About 10% are under 18...
about 22% of the rest are foreign born. Still trying to determin the total number of registered voters... but we had a good turnout, really.

mietla · « **Reply #38 on:** October 08, 2003, 04:19:50 PM »

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Originally posted by SOB
You're right. It is stupid that this wasn't dealt with a long time ago. I think it makes sense to have one official language and to encourage that among all immigrants. However, that's not what has happened. Instead, services have been provided in their native tongue. That being the case, it would be stupid to provide translation in those other services and then cut them off when it comes to excersizing their right to vote.

I don't care about what service we are talking about. The issue has nothing to do with the right to vote. I just object to idiotic, couter productive and costly efforts to force us to accommodate those who choose not to learn English.

Why would they after all?

mietla · « **Reply #39 on:** October 08, 2003, 04:21:10 PM »

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Originally posted by midnight Target
LOL... that was sooooo stinky sandman, and yet... successful!

those are the best

SOB · « **Reply #40 on:** October 08, 2003, 04:23:18 PM »

Look at the topic, it has everything to do with voting, and that's what I was commenting on. In the current system where we provide these accomidations (you're right, idiotic), cutting off this accomidation at the voters booth would effectively deny them the right to vote.

But whatever, we agree on the topic of the accomodations as a whole...they're a bad idea.

Udie · « **Reply #41 on:** October 08, 2003, 04:24:40 PM »

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Originally posted by Ripsnort
The last sentence was the real winner in the "Makes no sense at all" contest.

That's because you're not from Texas

He was refering to the 20 minute paisting that Texas gave Santa Anna while his army was on siesta. It is pronounced San Jacinto (ie.. the G sound not the H sound) We also don't do siesta's here since the fight

BUT -

The Mexicans don't bother speaking English here either. Most construction companies have to hire bi-lingual formans.....

Udie · « **Reply #42 on:** October 08, 2003, 04:27:46 PM »

Sandman,

I understood your initial post and pretty much agree with you. I'm all for making election Tuesdays national holidays. That or move voting to Saturdays.

mietla · « **Reply #43 on:** October 08, 2003, 04:28:41 PM »

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Originally posted by SOB
But whatever, we agree on the topic of the accomodations as a whole...they're a bad idea.

So, does it mean that you are not going to beat me up at the MiniCon?

Or just a poke in the eye?

midnight Target · « **Reply #44 on:** October 08, 2003, 04:29:11 PM »

Can't get a line supervisor job in my company without being bi-lingual.