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Offline Jester

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« Reply #30 on: October 17, 2003, 01:12:22 AM »
The A-20/Boston FM has got to be the "BIGGEST LOAD OF *****" that is in AH today!

Who the HELL ever heard of real life A-20/Boston pilots dogfighting and WINNING fights with the likes of ME-109 and Zekes!

Don't get me wrong, I have read of some incredible things done by pilots of the A-20 and some massive damage the planes have incured and still returned to base but there IS NO FARKIN WAY the A-20/Boston should be able to dogfight like that! Much less do it and keep from tearing itself apart.

This one is even better than the A6M2's "rubber band powered" cannons.   :rolleyes:
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« Reply #31 on: October 17, 2003, 03:22:00 AM »
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Well on my last sorty with the A20 i got 7 kills of wich one was a gv

I was flying around a base and a 109 came up i had more e and smoked his engine. (while outclimbing the 109 dweeb) He just ignored the fact the A20 can be a *****.<<-- BIATCH whaaa
 
I got out of ammo at that point, than i got the victim on my tail raised the nose shift x and finished it of with the dorsal.

Better not forget u have one. He became kill 8 btw :)

I flew just a few sorties and i have a KD of 1/18 in it .


Racked up 200 kills in 2 hours 1 night in the A20 a few tours ago.  8 500's go along way against the gv hordes you sometimes face :D
Love the ride and you can outrun spit's at low alt in it.

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« Reply #32 on: October 18, 2003, 09:42:45 AM »
Got 5 a2a kills in A-20 one night furballing over bish base at 5-10k. 2 niks, a spit, pony and 190. I also have the longest non bombergun kill in an A-20 Spit couldnt outfly me so he dove off and did the run and HO, he pulled around at 3k came back ,met a faceful of lead at 1.8k and his wing fell of at 1.6k out.
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« Reply #33 on: October 19, 2003, 05:43:24 AM »
..ok, I am missing something, so sorry if this sounds TOTTALLY off, but I kinda have my apt. half-assed packed & can't find any of my books, but.. what is the biggest differance between the A-20/DB-7 and the A-26.. I know it's not THAT big o one, but fer the life o me I can't remember it .. hell, I jus wanna fignd my book on fighter-craft..  :-(

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« Reply #34 on: October 19, 2003, 12:17:14 PM »
The A20 was a smaller aircraft with a hard nose and 6 50cal's. It had 1600 HP radials and was used as a fast attack strike bomber with a secondary capability as a night fighter. The night fighter part wasn't used because the P-61 came along. The A26 was similar in design to the B26 but in reality it was very very differernt. The A26 was designed from the ground up to be an interdictor. The most fearsome combination of firepower available to allies from the late 1930's upto when the F-14 tomcat came into service, nothing could haul as much ordinance as the A26.  Available in several configurations, some mounting 20mm cannon and a 50cal combination in a hard nose, to having 8 50cal's in the nose followed by 3 50cal's in each wing, and mounting rockets + an internal bombload. The A26 would accellerate rapidly to 400mph according to Dukemskt. Dukemskt, who is a member here and also happens to be my boss was an A26 driver during Vietnam and the following to say about it.

"One night we came upon an old GMC duce and a half and strafed the ***** out of it. We came back around and it looked like a *****ed up GMC duce and a half, so we rocketed it and napalmed it. After that it was a *****ed up burning GMC duce and a half and is probally still on fire today."

Interesting note about the A26, it had a roll rate that was phenominal - even greater then that of the P38 or P61. It would roll so fast that if you were not careful you could red out. It was a fantastic plane that was overbuilt, and as such still see's service as a borate bomber up in the northern canada territory through Airspray services.

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Wolfala.

P.S. I have the pilot operating handbook from 1945 that I scanned into PDF format if you want it. Same goes for the P51D/K, P38L and P47N


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« Reply #35 on: October 20, 2003, 06:30:43 PM »
200 Kills in 2 Hours? Which tour was that?


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Racked up 200 kills in 2 hours 1 night in the A20 a few tours ago.  8 500's go along way against the gv hordes you sometimes face :D
Love the ride and you can outrun spit's at low alt in it.

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Re: Re: A-20G: Dangerous dogfighter
« Reply #36 on: October 21, 2003, 06:09:49 PM »
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Over the past month (covering portions of two tours) I have been flying the A-20G quite a bit as a fighter-bomber. I have enjoyed quite a few sorties where I engaged in combat with all kinds of fighters, from 18k, right down to the deck.

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Personally I love the A20G: Next to the P-38L its the 1 aircraft i've flown that has taken a beating and kept me comming home.

As for history on it: It was designed with a secondary capability as being a night fighter - but since the P-61 was awarded the role, it was never utilized as such.

I have nothing but respect for A20 pilots.

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Actually A-20 was modified into the Douglas P-70, which served until the P-61 was ready.  See the thread regarding the P-61.


Besides the dorsal twin .50 turret, at least some models of the A-20 also had a .30 cal ventral tunnel gun (as in the TBF/M Avenger), which for some reason has not been modeled in the AH version.  Let's all us A20  flyers lobby to have that Avenger tunnel gun art slapped on the A20.

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« Reply #37 on: October 21, 2003, 07:23:39 PM »
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Actually A-20 was modified into the Douglas P-70, which served until the P-61 was ready.  See the thread regarding the P-61.


Besides the dorsal twin .50 turret, at least some models of the A-20 also had a .30 cal ventral tunnel gun (as in the TBF/M Avenger), which for some reason has not been modeled in the AH version.  Let's all us A20  flyers lobby to have that Avenger tunnel gun art slapped on the A20.


Originally, HTC said that the ventral gun was left off due to not having photos of the interior to model. Not long after, photos were posted here.... It wasn't a major priority though.

The ventral gun installation on the A-20G was a single .50 caliber machine gun. Earlier models mounted a single, and sometimes a pair of .30 (depending on who was using the aircraft it could be 30-06, .303 or 7.5mm) caliber MGs.

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Widewing
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« Reply #38 on: October 21, 2003, 11:50:05 PM »
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Widewing,

Totally agree on your comments, only ever come across one A20 flown with E retention and he did put up a good fight until eventually bled all his E away and made for a easy kill. Think I was in a D Pony at the time.

A20 is like 110 and other single dorsal gun planes, waste of time trying to defend from that position and better off making a fight out of it.

Will try out the A20 sometime, see how it goes. Good post by the way.


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LOL I and the guy's I fly with have many kills from the dorsal turret.  If you got energy go up and they will follow watermelon your a buff!!!!  Best kills are in a ju88 though!