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GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #30 on:** October 10, 2003, 02:18:58 PM »

"Good thing. This will create a lot of new jobs and more taxed money, less wellfare and a stabile Economy of the US. "

The euroland unemployment rate is 8.8%, France by itself is 9.1%, the US rate in this time of "crisis" is 6.1% - I think it's europe that needs to add some jobs.

crabofix · « **Reply #31 on:** October 10, 2003, 02:38:11 PM »

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
"Good thing. This will create a lot of new jobs and more taxed money, less wellfare and a stabile Economy of the US. "

The euroland unemployment rate is 8.8%, France by itself is 9.1%, the US rate in this time of "crisis" is 6.1% - I think it's europe that needs to add some jobs.

I need to put you of my Ignore list. I tend to read a lot of your posts:lol

Yes, you can swing around figures and state this is the fact.

I can state that the unemployment of France is no more then 2% and that the US has 14% unemployment.

You better show your sources to theese figures or they might just be like mine? Mine are false.

Kieran · « **Reply #32 on:** October 10, 2003, 02:42:28 PM »

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Originally posted by miko2d
AKIron: You have great confidence in a country that has by so many opinions displayed here shown itself to be an irresponsible war monger....
I know you meant we couldn't if we were rational.

What I ment was we cannot bomb and/or invade Russia and China in order to stop them from accepting other currencies in lieu of dollar and thus prevent dollar's downfall - like we did to Iraq.

If we start throwing nukes around, the value of the dollar will be the least of our concerns.

AKIron: Before conspiring to destroy the US' economy perhaps you should consider that major wars have been fought over such actions.

Our economy is being destroyed by ourselves. What they can do is suddenly - or gradually - withdraw the shoulder on which we were leaning.

Kieran: ...they need us to consume their goods...

I appologise, but this statement is really as stuid as it sounds. They could always buy those goods with dollars they already have in their reserves, buy out those dollars with money they print, like they do now and put the dollars back into reserves. Nobody inside will notice the difference.
Or better yet, they can stop producing goods that are sent to us in exchange for paper that is taken out of circulation and start producing what they actually need.
During New Deal we had worthless wastefull make-work projects to keep people employed. Now we are the world's make-work project.

A working man who gives some money/food to the panhhandler is not going to suffer if the panhandler disappears.

miko

You might be right. I was under the delusion we were the world's largest consumer of manufactured goods. I suppose if that well runs dry the rest of the world's economies will be hunky-dory, with nary a blip on their stocks. Or maybe not.

Toad · « **Reply #33 on:** October 10, 2003, 03:28:49 PM »

Yep.

That huge US trade imbalance will just have to stop totally. Nobody will want our money and we won't be able to buy Evian and other necessities.

Cripes, we may have to drink Ozark spring water!

Kieran · « **Reply #34 on:** October 10, 2003, 04:03:52 PM »

I'm just learning here, but... even if we do consume more than we produce, it's a market no one really wants to lose. As for manufacturing... that's easy. We just start manufacturing again and put some of these people back to work. Essential industries first of course, but eventually consumer markets as well. It will be hard for a while, but we'll be fine in the long haul.

threedays · « **Reply #35 on:** October 10, 2003, 04:25:13 PM »

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Originally posted by ra
Huh?

correct me if im wrong but
Iraq were traiding in € since 1999

threedays · « **Reply #36 on:** October 10, 2003, 04:33:24 PM »

nice post miko
but tell me.. do you realy belive that Coalition have enough power to start war with Iran ?
Iran is a bit diferent country that Iraq..

they have at least 600 Fighters (mirages and migs)
coalition had about 550 in gulf
they are at home and most people hate iranian gov but they do not like US as well, and all of them said, that they rather fight for Islamic iran that to be under influence of US (well this was true 6 moths ago and i dont thing it gonna change after parade of sux in iraq

) )
and last most funny thing is, that iran have some of S-300 and a lot of most cool russian crap

so i dont thing there is chance to make some changes by war
whats your opinion ?

AKIron · « **Reply #37 on:** October 10, 2003, 04:48:34 PM »

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Originally posted by threedays
nice post miko
but tell me.. do you realy belive that Coalition have enough power to start war with Iran ?
Iran is a bit diferent country that Iraq..

they have at least 600 Fighters (mirages and migs)
coalition had about 550 in gulf
they are at home and most people hate iranian gov but they do not like US as well, and all of them said, that they rather fight for Islamic iran that to be under influence of US (well this was true 6 moths ago and i dont thing it gonna change after parade of sux in iraq ) )
and last most funny thing is, that iran have some of S-300 and a lot of most cool russian crap

so i dont thing there is chance to make some changes by war
whats your opinion ?

It's one thing to wage war with a country and another to occupy it. Iran would fall inside of a week but facing suicide bombers for years is rather unpalatable.

threedays · « **Reply #38 on:** October 10, 2003, 04:58:02 PM »

iron so you mean that Iran can be defeated in 1 week ?

AKIron · « **Reply #39 on:** October 10, 2003, 05:01:42 PM »

1 day if we really applied ourselves.

threedays · « **Reply #40 on:** October 10, 2003, 05:07:10 PM »

i guess you are not able to see spike of your nose in past few years .....

lol
may be you should visit that country and try to calculate it again

AKIron · « **Reply #41 on:** October 10, 2003, 05:09:43 PM »

I guess you don't know about nuclear weapons. They end wars pretty quick.

threedays · « **Reply #42 on:** October 10, 2003, 05:14:54 PM »

bla bla bla we have nuke blabla bla we have nuke....

any results but strong words ?

AKIron · « **Reply #43 on:** October 10, 2003, 05:19:46 PM »

Hehe, well like I said, 1 week non-nuke. That's if we go in to defeat the government and those bold enough to bear arms against our military. And, if we're not so worried about protecting civilians like we did in Iraq.

Ya never know, we may have a chance to find out.

mrblack · « **Reply #44 on:** October 10, 2003, 05:31:08 PM »

Who can say how long it would take to defete Iran.
1 week? 3weeks? or does it even really matter?
I think the really important part is how long is America going to put up with 20-30 on average dead US troops a week?
And for the life of me I am still trying to find a really good reason for it.
Ok OK we took saddum good he needed to go.
Now what?

The very people we freeded are killing our troops!!
I kinda get the point they dont want us there.

I dont have the answers i dont think anyone does and Bush has got himslef in pretty deep.

I voted for the dude but I dont know bout him now?
The economy is in the toilet and the middle east hates us.

Indeed the wole world is watching us to see what we do next.
I can only hope wisdom prevails.

I consider myself a patriot and I Love America I serverd Her as did some of you.

But it pains me greatly to see on the news every night that 2 or 3 or 5 more Us troops have been killed.

People they are being asked to do what they where not trained for!
To act as boarder guards and police men.
That aint the role of the military.

I never had kids But if I did they would be of the age and I am sure they would be in the military. so i take it personale when I hear of a fellow American that has died for a I country (Iraq) that
could really care less about them.

Ask yourself If it was your son or brother would his life be worth it?