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AKIron · « **Reply #45 on:** October 10, 2003, 05:40:56 PM »

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Originally posted by mrblack
The very people we freeded are killing our troops!!
I kinda get the point they dont want us there.

Sorry but that's just not true. The people conducting the guerilla war against us were Saddam's or Osama's supporters. After all, he didn't oppress those millions all by his lonesome.

mrblack · « **Reply #46 on:** October 10, 2003, 05:42:41 PM »

And you know this how?
CNN? Please:rofl

AKIron · « **Reply #47 on:** October 10, 2003, 05:47:15 PM »

Common sense, you know it's not true how?

mrblack · « **Reply #48 on:** October 10, 2003, 05:54:16 PM »

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Originally posted by AKIron
Common sense, you know it's not true how?

Well I like to think that our intell and military has improved since
viet nam!
You do see that we are incurring pretty much that same casulity
rate that we had in viet nam?

So we have suppremecie over the air we have all this great Intell.
And we have all these troops who in my opinion are the best in the world with all there high tech gear.
And there being picked off by a bunch of goat hearders:mad:

Sounds alot like viet nam just different part of the world.

Does any body have casulity rates for viet nam?

threedays · « **Reply #49 on:** October 10, 2003, 06:01:10 PM »

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Originally posted by AKIron
Common sense, you know it's not true how?

LOL

i trough that common sense is only problem affecting woman 7 days a month

AKIron · « **Reply #50 on:** October 10, 2003, 06:03:53 PM »

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Originally posted by mrblack
Well I like to think that our intell and military has improved since
viet nam!
You do see that we are incurring pretty much that same casulity
rate that we had in viet nam?

So we have suppremecie over the air we have all this great Intell.
And we have all these troops who in my opinion are the best in the world with all there high tech gear.
And there being picked off by a bunch of goat hearders:mad:

Sounds alot like viet nam just different part of the world.

Does any body have casulity rates for viet nam?

You're the one insisting the attacks are done by goat herders. I'm saying they are somewhat organized goat herders with guns and dynamite and allegiance to either Saddam, Osama, or some other equally anti-US middle easterner.

Do I like it that my countrymen are being killed almost daily? Hell no. I was in the military for 20 years and consider these guys my brothers.

Is it a necessary step to ensure our security? Since I don't have access to all the classified information I will defer to those elected and appointed officials that do.

threedays · « **Reply #51 on:** October 10, 2003, 06:06:38 PM »

well Iron my friend have nice question....

ummm and how many hours do you need you defeat N korea ?

AKIron · « **Reply #52 on:** October 10, 2003, 06:08:50 PM »

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Originally posted by threedays
well Iron my friend have nice question....

ummm and how many hours do you need you defeat N korea ?

You need to be a little more specific. I think 5 more years should do it.

threedays · « **Reply #53 on:** October 10, 2003, 06:11:40 PM »

well so iran with 70 mil of people within 1 week
and N korea with 90 mil with in 5 years .... whups .. hows that ?

AKIron · « **Reply #54 on:** October 10, 2003, 06:13:47 PM »

Well, we'll only "defeat" Iran with military action. On the other hand, North Korea is thrashing about in death throes as we speak.

Actually, Iran may already be coming around to a more western way of life. There seems to be a growing dissatisfaction among the youth with the fanatical devotion to Islam required.

crabofix · « **Reply #55 on:** October 10, 2003, 06:19:13 PM »

Mr threedays.

It is obvious that you dont know about AK-Iron and Math. Dont confuse him with figures, he just repeats what he heard the others talk about.

And the guys that are killing US troops are welltrained spetznatz armed with Superguns, loaded with Silverbullets. Cause thats the only thing that could hurt them.

Goathearders???

Now, Now, be seriouse

AKIron · « **Reply #56 on:** October 10, 2003, 06:38:46 PM »

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Originally posted by crabofix
Mr threedays.

It is obvious that you dont know about AK-Iron and Math. Dont confuse him with figures, he just repeats what he heard the others talk about.

And the guys that are killing US troops are welltrained spetznatz armed with Superguns, loaded with Silverbullets. Cause thats the only thing that could hurt them.

Goathearders???

Now, Now, be seriouse

I won't fault your spelling but there is no hyphen in AKIron. You're right about me and math anyhow.

threedays · « **Reply #57 on:** October 10, 2003, 06:51:06 PM »

yes iron a lot of people doesnt like contemporary iranian goverment..... i spoke to people whitch has been in jail as well...
but alll of them said if Us will come with weapons in hands, we will fight back.... there is no diference, they already had you there once, and they are not interesting in pseudo freedom
anyway, you are very smart and i probably never been there as you know, so Crabofix is right

fuk i better shut up coz my english is getting more close to my mother language, already 1:49AM here ...

Habu · « **Reply #58 on:** October 10, 2003, 06:57:18 PM »

Lets say the world runs away from the US dollar. Ok so you have the US with a worthless currency.

Now what happens to all the other countries in the world that depend on the US for their exports? Ummm no market anymore.

Now what happens to the price of US product in the world? Hmmmmm great stuff for practically free. Lets buy more.

Wait the US must buy Arab oil and jap cars etc. No actually they do not. Domestic energy becomes much more attractive. When energy prices rise alternatives such as conservation become much more attractive. Just look at what happened when OPEC screwed the world in the 70's. The price collapsed and stayed that way for almost 20 years. The Oil Sands in Canada have more oil in them than Saudi Arabia does and it just depends on the price of the oil (in US dollars) how economic it is to produce it.

Jap cars. No market anymore for them. The Jap economy dies. Japan no longer can afford to import European products as they will keep the Yen pegged to the US dollar. Where will Europe export all its subsidized farm goods and manufactured goods now that they cost a fortune?

China already is being pressured by the US to revalue its currency. It will not. The only reason Chinese products are so cheap is because the Chinese government keeps its currency artificially low to encourage exports at the expense of the living standard of its people.

Oh and finally Gold becomes the new world standard. Guess who controls the majority of the worlds production of Gold? Ummm Canada and the US.

This whole Euro thing is just wistful thinking.

Thrawn · « **Reply #59 on:** October 10, 2003, 06:58:36 PM »

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Originally posted by Kieran
I'm just learning here,

Same here.

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but... even if we do consume more than we produce, it's a market no one really wants to lose.

But why not lose it.

Say the US trades France 100 laptops for 100 chiars. Great everyone benefits. The US gets some wine, and the French get some caculators.

But apparently with the trade deficate the US gets 100 chairs and France gets US dollars. French government than taxes it's citizens, buys the dollars from the carpenter with those francs and sticks the US dollars in a vault.

US gets chairs, Frances gets pieces of paper that it can't use, because if it uses pieces of paper the paper looses value. So France is really getting nothing usable in exchange. For all intents and purposes the carpenter is working for the US for free.

Now apparently, it would be much better for France to let that carpenter go out of business, and have him work in an industry that would actually benefit France.

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As for manufacturing... that's easy. We just start manufacturing again and put some of these people back to work. Essential industries first of course, but eventually consumer markets as well. It will be hard for a while, but we'll be fine in the long haul.

Yes it would be hard. Because meanwhilel US chair manufactures go out of business, because they can't compete with the price of the "free" chairs from France. Not only does his business go, but the infrasture for the chair industry and the know-how involve with setting up the infrustrure and producing chairs. Long, painful process to relearn.

At least I believe this is what miko is saying, if I remember his past examples correctly.

And please don't take this as anti-americanism. If I truely was I would gleefully keep my mouth shut and not try and give this warning.