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Offline Mini D

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« Reply #60 on: October 23, 2003, 05:29:12 PM »
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How much money has she received? How many other men has she extorted?
extorted?  What does that have to do with anything?  Surely you realize that a civil trial will follow... right?  It always helps a civil trial to have the AG build a case and try the "defendant" on criminal charges.  Especially since "reasonable doubt" is not really as much of a factor in civil settlements.

If you're looking for motivation for lieing, it's there.  If you don't see it, you are chosing to be ignorant.  There is a substantial ammount to be gained by pressing charges against Koby.

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Offline AKS\/\/ulfe

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« Reply #61 on: October 23, 2003, 05:29:54 PM »
You don't need a history when it comes down to basic greed.

She stands to win a lot *IF* she can win this case. She can't though, not unless Kobe admits to raping her.

You can't hand down a verdict just on a feeling or based on someone's past, no matter how clean or dirty it is.
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« Reply #62 on: October 23, 2003, 05:32:11 PM »
You guys are ignoring the cold hard fact that most chicks are vengeful nutcase beyatches and driven by some sort of hormone that makes them emotionally unstable, unable to operate computers properly, lethal weapons when armed with cars, and easily attracted by bright shiney objects.

So they shag, he leaves, she packs a tantrum and cries rape.
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« Reply #63 on: October 23, 2003, 05:37:51 PM »
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If you're looking for motivation for lieing, it's there.  If you don't see it, you are chosing to be ignorant.

MiniD


So, if you think every rich person cannot be convicted of rape because they are being targeted for lawsuits, you are being ignorant. Most rapes do not happen in front of witnesses. So I guess when it comes down to it, he can get away with rape whenever he wants, as long as there are no witnesses.

BTW, did he take a lie detector test?
« Last Edit: October 23, 2003, 05:41:16 PM by Sixpence »
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« Reply #64 on: October 23, 2003, 05:40:39 PM »
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You can't hand down a verdict just on a feeling or based on someone's past, no matter how clean or dirty it is.
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Yes you can, if she has a history of what has happened. If she had done the same thing before( cried rape, only not to be proven).
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"My grandaddy always told me, "There are three things that'll put a good man down: Losin' a good woman, eatin' bad possum, or eatin' good possum."" - Holden McGroin

(and I still say he wasn't trying to spell possum!)

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« Reply #65 on: October 23, 2003, 05:41:10 PM »
Its not about getting away with rape, its the fact that there is no evidence of rape on his behalf.

With a 3rd party involved, any thing she says could be construed as a lie since Kobe can deny it. There is no PROOF HE did the raping.

As for lie detectors, they really aren't "lie" detectors. Can be beaten, and can find the innocent guilty.
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« Reply #66 on: October 23, 2003, 05:42:59 PM »
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Yes you can, if she has a history of what has happened. If she had done the same thing before( cried rape, only not to be proven).


You have no idea how the legal system works.
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« Reply #67 on: October 23, 2003, 05:43:10 PM »
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As for lie detectors, they really aren't "lie" detectors. Can be beaten, and can find the innocent guilty.
-SW


Well, if I were in his shoes, the first thing I would have done would be a lie detector. I would even subject myself to gas(not too easily beaten) if I had that much to lose.

But if I were guilty.............
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(and I still say he wasn't trying to spell possum!)

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« Reply #68 on: October 23, 2003, 05:46:07 PM »
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Well, if I were in his shoes, the first thing I would have done would be a lie detector. I would even subject myself to gas(not too easily beaten) if I had that much to lose.

But if I were guilty.............


If I were innocent, I would not subject myself to a "lie" detector test.

Throw a trick question in there, you stammer, your heart rate jumps, your eyes dialate. Whoops! You got that one wrong, and now that heightened heart rate is with you for the rest of the test. You fail, guilty, enjoy prison.
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« Reply #69 on: October 23, 2003, 05:47:32 PM »
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If I were innocent, I would not subject myself to a "lie" detector test.

Throw a trick question in there, you stammer, your heart rate jumps, your eyes dialate. Whoops! You got that one wrong,
-SW


That doesn't happen under gas. Nice try though. And it seems you don't know too much about the system, a lie detector cannot put you in jail.
« Last Edit: October 23, 2003, 05:49:54 PM by Sixpence »
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« Reply #70 on: October 23, 2003, 05:50:43 PM »
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That doesn't happen under gas. Nice try though.


Then how do they detect a "lie"? They work based on the dialation of your pupils or the raise in your circulation rate.

Gas isn't going to be some magical invisibility against trick questions you aren't expecting.
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« Reply #71 on: October 23, 2003, 05:53:21 PM »
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Then how do they detect a "lie"? They work based on the dialation of your pupils or the raise in your circulation rate.

Gas isn't going to be some magical invisibility against trick questions you aren't expecting.
-SW


Obviously you do not understand how gas works.

But let us put that aside, it cannot be used in the courtroom. But I believe it can be presented to the prosecution.
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Offline AKS\/\/ulfe

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« Reply #72 on: October 23, 2003, 05:53:50 PM »
Well, it doesn't matter if it puts you in jail or not - take the polygraph and fail it. That sets one helluva precedent for the court case.

Of course, you keep talking about using someone's past to convict them on present charges that are obviously flawed in the fact that there is a third party.

Its evident I know more about the legal system than you.
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« Reply #73 on: October 23, 2003, 05:54:11 PM »
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Why is it a stupid question? Is there a history of extortion? Is there a history of crying rape?

How much money could she receive? Stupid question, she could receive none, or want none. Do you have proof she wants money?


Sixpence, remember the civil lawsuit that followed the OJ Simpson trial?  Remember the award?

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« Reply #74 on: October 23, 2003, 05:56:07 PM »
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Obviously you do not understand how gas works.


Gas is not going to be some magical nervous reaction prevention. It may work in 80% of the tests.

Besides, what gas are you talking about and where is evidence of it being used?
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