Author Topic: not trying to stir up trouble but.. (Read 1878 times)

WhiteHawk · « **on:** October 25, 2003, 09:31:59 PM »

I know this is just in the early staes, but I cant play with those helix tracers. Some of them swirl out to about a foot radius. Reminds me of those cheap bottle rockets. Anybody else see this or is it something on my end?

ply · « **Reply #1 on:** October 25, 2003, 10:49:01 PM »

I thought they looked closer to real footage of tracers being fired from WWII airplanes than what we have now

Shane · « **Reply #2 on:** October 25, 2003, 11:05:32 PM »

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Originally posted by ply
I thought they looked closer to real footage of tracers being fired from WWII airplanes than what we have now

welllll... the footage you see is exactly that.. footage... from a camera mounted on the plane... which is being vibrated the hell out of when the guns fire....

Rutilant · « **Reply #3 on:** October 25, 2003, 11:09:18 PM »

So you mean the only thing we have to go no.. we can't go on.. so everything else is just guessing, but that's better than going by video footage?

ply · « **Reply #4 on:** October 26, 2003, 12:11:09 AM »

Guess now I'll pay more attention to those films and see what they look like being filmed from a location other than the plane firing. But if your shaky camera theory is right, the pilot must also shake and may see it the same way.

Shane · « **Reply #5 on:** October 26, 2003, 01:41:24 AM »

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Originally posted by ply
Guess now I'll pay more attention to those films and see what they look like being filmed from a location other than the plane firing. But if your shaky camera theory is right, the pilot must also shake and may see it the same way.

the pilot will feel the guns balzing away, yes, but his body is a wonderful thing - it'll absorb the vibrations and maintain a steady view with those great mk4 eyeballs.

jodgi · « **Reply #6 on:** October 26, 2003, 03:50:12 AM »

I haven't got a clue to what's more realistic, but...

Did you see the tracer effect in "B17II the mighty eight"? I think they based their effect on gun cam footage. All the shaking was a bit confusing but it looked like a million dollars.

If I could cut'n'paste various parts from various sims, we would have the perfect som by now...

Swoop · « **Reply #7 on:** October 26, 2003, 04:00:22 AM »

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Originally posted by Shane
with those great mk4 eyeballs.

Mk4 now is it?

Odd, we're still using Mk1s in Britain.

jodgi · « **Reply #8 on:** October 26, 2003, 04:28:13 AM »

fullback · « **Reply #9 on:** October 26, 2003, 04:39:06 AM »

Shane is correct, you dolts. It is an optical quirk of 2-dimensional film due to undampened gun-camera mounting and not what is seen through stereoscopic, fluid-dampened eyes.

jodgi · « **Reply #10 on:** October 26, 2003, 04:52:31 AM »

Noone doubts Shane is right, fullback.

We're just pursuing the Mk4 eyball issue... Is Americans born with these? I'd like to upgrade my pair, do I have to send them to the US? I don't mind using a cane while I wait.

jodgi · « **Reply #11 on:** October 26, 2003, 04:53:40 AM »

Hey! and don't call me a dolt!

I'm a fullgrown continental idiot, and deserve to be treated as one!

fullback · « **Reply #12 on:** October 26, 2003, 05:47:04 AM »

Actually, all eyeballs and gunsights are now made in Taiwan and China.

Creamo · « **Reply #13 on:** October 26, 2003, 05:53:18 AM »

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Originally posted by jodgi
I haven't got a clue to what's more realistic, but...

Did you see the tracer effect in "B17II the mighty eight"? I think they based their effect on gun cam footage. All the shaking was a bit confusing but it looked like a million dollars.

Wow, I'd forgot about that. Your are indeed right.

jodgi · « **Reply #14 on:** October 26, 2003, 06:11:55 AM »

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Actually, all eyeballs and gunsights are now made in Taiwan and China.

I just learned that they also make them in Germany (Zeiss), but it will cost you an arm and a leg.