if im in a p51 in real life can i hear a 109 200 yards behind me?

[Citabria]

and now deep thought by metatron

[eskimo2]

I would think that you could hear a 109 that was maybe 20 or 30 feet away, at the most.  You could probably hear guns a bit further away.  I've read a few accounts of pilots first firing their guns and being surprised as to how loud they were.  But that's less than 10 feet away, mounted on their own planes.

Yes, I think inside plane sounds are greatly amplified in AH.

eskimo

[Eagler]

my guess is they were lucky to hear the bullets as they struck their aircraft - no way could they have heard a plane 200 to 300 ft behind them behind them

[vorticon]

to put it simply...can you hear the car thats directly behind you on the freeway???thought not

[MetaTron]

Originally posted by Citabria
and now deep thought by metatron

Brilliant prattle fester. Tell us why you want it changed! Because a P51 turned when he heard you getting close? The one or two extra kills isnt going to help you much.

I would rather ask HTC to prohibit the white sound mask so your engine sound cant be silent. Then even you wouldnt hear a con closing on your blind spot.

[JB73]

gotta stick my ugly head in here....

WHO hijacked Festercitibrias account?!?!?!?!?! (he would know the answer already)

i thought from all the myth surrounding him/her/it that it worked in the avionics (CHIT i speeled that right LOL) industry of some sort. {ie pilot or in the air force}

i thought somewhere i heard festercitibria taught ACM in Top Gun one time (though never believed it LOL)


but really...

 every "reliable" source said that "fester" was in some part of the armed forces and was an instructor or in the mininum flew planes.







really Fester WTF do you do for a living (have done)????/



<<>> btw nice winging with you in the past just an honest question!

[moot]

Pretty sure Fester is a something like a college student.

If the plane on your 6 is not gaining, the net velocity relative to you is 0 == no doppler effect.

The only question is whether or not the total sound volume by all things surrounding you; engine, wind, etc, cover the sound of a plane (its engine mostly, everything else would be pretty minor when heard from outside so that you'd hear none of it) 200d in space behind you (assuming that space carries the sound without deminishing it at all).

[AKS\/\/ulfe]

No, you would not hear anything other than your own engine in a closed cockpit - guns and hard hits (cannons, or MG close to the cockpit or main structural pieces) through a little audible reception, vibration would be the major "sound" factor here. Just like how your own voice will sound different to you than on an audio recorder, you will hear things through vibrations.

No, you would not hear anything other than your own engine and the wind in an open cockpit, guns and hits the way I mentioned above.
-SW

[kevykev56]

I have worked in the USAF on flightlines for over 10 years and know that you cant hear crap out there not even a person standing next to you without ear protection. BUT if you do wear earplugs and even ear defenders over the top of them you are suddenly able to hear a person standing beside you while they speak at a slightly elevated level. The hearing protection filters out the noises outside the freq of human speech but not the speech itself. Is it possible that the head sets worn by the pilots could have had a simular effect, allowing a detectable shift in freq from outside the aircraft. Even though your sitting right next to a 2000hp engine there is another one closing on your six. I can tell the difference when one F-16 is started and a second fires up behind me, It is very noticable. The ear is a very sensitive receiver, it is so sensitive that we detect AOA by Phase delta and not amplitute. So are we so sure it isnt possible? My 2 cent worth.

RHIN0

[beet1e]

Originally posted by Citabria
my point is should we be able to hear anything outside and behind our plane when flying 300mph with a 2000 hp engine next to us making noise while we are wearing a headset that covers our ears to protect them from the noise of the guns and the engine?

No. In a RL P51 you even have the "organ pipe effect" of the wind blowing across the gun barrel openings. In AH, folks even turn down their own engine volume so as to hear a con creeping up behind - pure gamey crap.

[SOB]

You poor sap, Beet, did you get robbed out of one to many "sneak up the 6" kills tonight?  "pure gamey crap"  LOL

[Frogm4n]

im convinced that Citabria has an unhealthy sexual fetish aimed at the 109.

[beet1e]

Originally posted by SOB
You poor sap, Beet, did you get robbed out of one to many "sneak up the 6" kills tonight?  "pure gamey crap"  LOL

No, haven't played AH since before the con. Still working off the ".44 mag virtual viagra"...

Have another burger.

[Siaf__csf]

Maybe there could be somekind of a compromise..

Include external sounds with doppler effects on 300 degrees around the plane. Leave 60 degrees blind spot behind the plane to make sound cheating impossible.

/edit

Leave external sounds just for the sake of 'wow' effect on gameplay. We're movie dweebs afterall. The deaph spot on the back should be enough.

[Leslie]

Haven't read the posts, and I don't know anything about airplanes, much less the P-51 Mustang.  But it seems to me the engine noise, plus the head gear of the pilot would preclude hearing another plane coming up behind you.

Just guessing here, but to me it seems visual contact would be the only thing letting you know something was there.




Les