Most NEEDED new planes

[Hornet1]

I disagree with the Machi MC 200. It's a marginal fighter who's role is already filled by C.202 in our game. I would rather see the Reggiane Re 2005 Sagittario. Very nimble aircraft with a max speed of 391 mph. It has excellent fire power with 3 20mm and 2 12.7mm. It also has the capability to carry ordnance.  I would also like to see the P-61 instead of the B-25 (not that the B-25 isn't an excellent plane) because the P-61 carry 6400lbs under the wings and a B-25J only has a pay of 4,000. Plus the P-61 would be a fun aircraft to fly in this arena. In all honesty I think that getting any new aircraft at this point is a pipe dream until they get un-busy with AH2. I wish they would have just given this game a face lift and tweaked it a bit. ...but we can dream.

[Arlo]

Originally posted by Batz
Fighters

Japan

1. Ki-84 - desperately needed for ToD, events and the ct and would get main time.

2. a6m3 - Needed for the ToD, events and the ct

US

3. p39N (or any variant except the q) - Needed for the ToD, events and the ct

4. p38g/j -  Needed for the ToD, events and the ct

VVS

5. Yak-9D - Needed for the ToD, events and the ct


Just the tip of the iceberg. The main is hardly a critera I would use. With the exception of the ki-84 most of the planes that will see regular usage are already in the main. Unless HT goes crazy and introduce wonder birds.

Top 5 Bomber

1. Betty
2. B25
3. He 111
4. Pe2 (fighter variant Pe3)
5. SM.79 Sparviero (however I agree with Brady in that the CANT Z 1007 would get more use)

Then finally fix some of the Hybrids

109g6 add mw50 designate 109g14
New early G6 model

F4U-1 (fix FM to match) and add F4U-1a

Spit 9 - Either get rid of the 50s and rockets and designate our current spit "Spitfire F.Mk IX" (merlin 61) or redo the FM (merlin 66) and designate "Spitfire LF.Mk IX". Or add a new model so we can have both.

I can go on and on but I think the above would make one of the best addons to AH ever.

I wholeheartedly agree with whoever this is posting under Batz' account.

[Batz]

We agree on other things as well.

http://www.zi.ku.dk/personal/drnash/model/spain/did.html

[Corsair]

Originally posted by Bodhi

4.  Japanese version of the 262.

There never was a Japanese version of the 262. The war ended long before it could be built, let alone see combat.

I would really like to see some French planes in AH2, as they played a big part in the Battle of France.

[-tronski-]

Originally posted by NOD2000
common wealth boomerang- why? well, it is the only austrailian plane that i feel would truly be a threat. It could be used in the CT because its a mid to late war plane. It would also not be a hanger queen because people would not know exactly what to expect upon encountering one (sort of like running into a FM2 or F4F). I belive it would be a great addition to AH2:aok

Everyone to thier own, but I disagree....one of my five is australian built, the boomerang would be found out quite quickly I think...

My Picks:

Ki-84
B-25
P-39/P-63
G4M
Beaufighter Mk21
Me-410
Meteor Mk1

variants:

Spitfire MkVIII
P-40M
Mosquito MkXVI

 Tronsky

[Guppy35]

Clipped wing Spit LFIXE or XVIE.  Same bird with either an American built Packard Merlin or a Rolls Royce Merlin in it, rated for low alt work.  

P39N or Q.  Pac, Med, Russian Front use.  Low alt bird again.  Did fine against 109s on the deck.

I-16.  Just cause it would be fun

OK I'll live with the Ki-84

Early war P38F or G.  Less range, no dive brake.


Dan/Slack

[Glasses]

I agree with Charon's list but I'd also add the Ki-43 and Ki-44 to add to the early IJAAF plane set list.

[artik]

Lets take a periods/forces that not fully persented in AH

Battle of Britan

• Do-17 the most used LW bomber in BoB,
• Ju-87 - early variants

Eastern Early Front

• I-16 - the most used VVS fighter.
• Yak 1 - middle war variants too
• LaGG-3
• He111
• Pe-2 - give VVS at least one real bomber

Jets - that had been operational in WW2

• He162
• Meteor Mk III
• P-80

Nightfighters

• Night Mossies
• Beufighter
• Me110 nightfighers

Others

• Ju87G - tank killer for LW to balance with Il-2
• B-29 - need more perked bombers
• 109K4
• Ki-84
• Some unammed light planes for Search & Rescue missions
• Ju52 - LW transport

Some early cold War planes for CT and SEA usage only!

• Meteor Mk F8
• Meteor Mk NF13
• F-86
• MiG-15
• Il-28
• Hawker Sea Hawk - Navy Jet Fighter
• Mystere IVa
• Vampire

Would be nice to have this planes for CT and SEA to go sometimes from WWII

[Hades55]

You have just gave me an idea.
We must can rescue pilots when they bailed out so he can save his kills:D
Ofcourse the enemy pilot will take his kill.
And imagine a rescue mission near a enemy field. Lot of fun

[artik]

Yeah it could be fun only if player bailed with 6-9 kills and then rescuer can take half of his points - this will give a reason for both to make rescue.

But it would be much better for scenarios. SAR was implemented in Kadesh - however it has very comples rules.

[Sikboy]

If there were a gameplay function for SAR, then the H6K (or H8K) and PBY would be GREAT additions.

The nature of the ToD might open up the possibilities for this type of role. Even without the ToD, it may fit nicely in scenario and SEA play (taking Kadesh as an example).

But it may be asking too much to add gameplay changes in order to justify new Aircraft when there are many aircraft that can be modeled within the current game design. On the other hand, Bullethead and I had a conversation about planeset development a few years ago, and nobody in the thread saw the gameplay changes that would come with ToD, and the change in airplane emphasis that the ToD would have (namely in my mind, reducing the demand for MA fighters, and increasing the demand for "fleshing out" specific periods and theaters of the war).

I think that at this point in time, with the ToD as the apparent future of AH, that when looking at what planes "need" to be added, that we look at it from the "fleshing out" perspective. Artiks post is an example of this type of thinking. My interests are more in the Pacific, so if it were my world:

Early-Mid Pacific
Imperial Japanese
Ki-43 Hyabusa
A6M3 Zero
Ki-45 Toryu
G4M Betty
United States
P-38e
B-17e
P-400 (P-39D?)
TBD Devastator

I think that would work. If you could pick one single time/theater to flesh out, what would it be, and what planes would you want?

-Sik

[humble]

Obviously the 1 plane that truely HAS to be added is the Ki-84.

Beyond that I think the single plane with the largest potential impact on the game...and the war isone that was never fielded...although it could of been.

Had the war "continued" somehow into 1946 the "work horse" of the allied war effort would of been the F7F...it's the only plane on any side that could fufill all air to air and air to ground roles...very much like the F-16 today. Here was a plane that did 435mph...had 4 x 20mm & 4 x .50 cal and carried 4,000 lbs of ord and could easily kill any plane it met in combat (with exception of 262).

It isn't really a plane that "qualifies" (it did see some active service though) but it would have easily replaced the mustang as "best fighter" of WW2 had it been put into production sooner.

[USAREC]

Originally posted by HavocTM
1 - Douglas A26 Invader: 355 mph, 6000 lbs of bombs, 8 five-inch rockets.  A good late-war (perk?) bomber.  Basically a six-pack of whoopass.

2 - Curtiss SB2C Helldiver: Destroyed more Japanese targets than any other plane.  Sort of fits in the TBM/SBD role, so maybe not needed per se, but would be a fun alternative.

3 - Bell P63 KingCobra:  Better than the P39, flown by the Russians.  37 mm Cannon, .50 cals and three 500 lb bombs.  Fast, aerobatic, probably a blast to fly and sexy as hell.

4 - Fairey Firefly:  Hella fast, 4x20 mm cannons (Brit Niki?), 16 rockets or 2x1000 lb bombs.  Can you say JABO?  I knew you could

5 - Consolidated B-24 Liberator:  12,800 lbs of bombs, 290 mph at altitude.  Deadly.  Maybe a perk plane.

i don't know that much about WWII planes, but after you're explenation of them, i think they'd be a good addition to the MA/CT

[qts]

I'd like to see the Gigant as a lightly perked bomber/supply plane. Give it four times the load of a C47, and be able to mix supplies and troops.

I'd also like to see the Gigant as a lightly perked vehicle transport, allowing you to take your Ostwind or two M3s to near a distant field. The perks would be saved as soon as you land, however.

I'd like to see the ventral gun as an option on the Arado. An Arado with two bombs and the ventral canon would be much more playable, IMO.

I'd like to see the C variant Arados with four jet engines

[F4i]

Ki-84
P-47N
STILL waiting for the F6F with the 20mm cannon option!!!

TBolt