Author Topic: What If... (Read 600 times)

BlckMgk · « **on:** October 27, 2003, 04:31:15 PM »

What if, a group of folks here in U.S. trained and supplied themselves (guns, ammunition, equipment, food etc..) with their OWN money, went to Iraq, and started to kill Terrorist in Iraq.

What consequences, other than being killed by the terrorist in battle etc.. is there? Can they be charged with murder etc..?

-BM

Gadfly · « **Reply #1 on:** October 27, 2003, 04:31:55 PM »

BlckMgk · « **Reply #2 on:** October 27, 2003, 04:36:00 PM »

yes.....?? to Which part.. please elaborate..

EDIT: btw thats the quickest reply I've ever seen. with in the same minute! You own Gadfly..

Gadfly · « **Reply #3 on:** October 27, 2003, 04:39:28 PM »

You could not GET to Iraq, number one. You would be breaking a multitude of laws if you did, and you would be considered a Terrorist yourself if you actually made it in-country with weapons.

mrblack · « **Reply #4 on:** October 27, 2003, 04:41:55 PM »

The Stae Dept would hang you by your short and curlys.

tapakeg · « **Reply #5 on:** October 27, 2003, 04:48:38 PM »

I remember when desert storm was going on, a bunch of guys wanted to bring their own sidearms. They were informed that if they shoot an enemy soldier in combat with their own weapon it is murder, if they shoot the same enemy in the same situation with their issued weapon they are doing their job.

BlckMgk · « **Reply #6 on:** October 27, 2003, 04:52:46 PM »

Interesting.... So I guess I'm going to need to do this illegally eh?

This is puzzling to me for some reason.

Chairboy · « **Reply #7 on:** October 27, 2003, 05:04:12 PM »

You would be an illegal combatant and therefor a war criminal.

War is by its nature chaotic, so the administration of war needs to be as structured as possible. There is no room for 'rough riders' in todays world.

Charon · « **Reply #8 on:** October 27, 2003, 05:14:36 PM »

Not to mention the fact that you would have no way to identify a terrorist from a falafel vendor. You would not know the language, culture, people or operational area. You would not have any intelligence resources to draw from. You would stick out like a sore thumb. If the hard core foreign-trained mujhahideen styled terrorists stopped laughing long enough, you probably wouldn't be worth the effort to target. But if they decided you were, then your chance of survival at the hands of these experts would be slim to none. Good hollywood b-film script though.

Here's what you would be up against: http://www.kavkaz.org.uk/eng/video/

(Thanks for the link a week ago or so ago. I can't remember who posted the video, but this does give some insight into what our troops are facing daily.)

Charon

FUNKED1 · « **Reply #9 on:** October 27, 2003, 05:16:40 PM »

I would imagine that a group of heavily armed civilians would have a good chance of getting wasted by US forces. Reading "The March Up", it seems that mostly what they were fighting.

BlckMgk · « **Reply #10 on:** October 27, 2003, 05:21:54 PM »

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Originally posted by Charon
Not to mention the fact that you would have no way to identify a terrorist from a falafel vendor. You would not know the language, culture, people or operational area. You would not have any intelligence resources to draw from. You would stick out like a sore thumb. If the hard core foreign-trained mujhahideen styled terrorists stopped laughing long enough, you probably wouldn't be woth the effort to target. But if they decided you were, then your chance of survival at the hands of these experts would be slim to none. Good hollywood b-film script though.

Here's what you would be up against: http://www.kavkaz.org.uk/eng/video/

(Thanks for the link a week ago or so ago. I can't remember who posted the video, but this does give some insight into what our troops are facing daily.)

Charon

Yeah I did consider the fact about intelligence, etc. You'd really have to be someone with connections, just to get into Iraq would be pretty hard, as they mentioned above. As far as surviving... thats something one would have to cope with if they did plan on going mercenary style.

-Thanks

Furball · « **Reply #11 on:** October 27, 2003, 05:27:27 PM »

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Originally posted by FUNKED1
I would imagine that a group of heavily armed civilians would have a good chance of getting wasted by US forces. Reading "The March Up", it seems that mostly what they were fighting.

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I would imagine that a group of civilians would have a good chance of getting wasted by US forces. Reading "The March Up", it seems that mostly what they were fighting.

BlckMgk · « **Reply #12 on:** October 27, 2003, 05:32:49 PM »

Ahh alright I get it now funked, That we'll be mistaken by the U.S. as terrorist ourselves eh? I guess thats possible, But I'd try and befriend the local established army unit. Let them know of our what we're doing, but he'd probably not allow for the outlawness to happen though, and arrest me on the spot. Maybe I could find a cowboy out there, who'd appreciate the support, but It could also be dangerous for his men to if we were operating in the same areas etc...

Charon · « **Reply #13 on:** October 27, 2003, 05:36:19 PM »

Or you could just take a ride down to the nearest recruiting office. I'm sure you could find an Army or Marine recruiter that would be more than happy to place you and your friends in the combat zone, as little as three months from now. Not quite the hollywood fantasy, but if you really want to get in on the action it's only a signature or two away.

Charon

Gadfly · « **Reply #14 on:** October 27, 2003, 05:36:20 PM »

Something tells me the local Army units would not be enthusiastic at the prosepect of either having to attempt to save your bellybutton or scrape up the remains off the street.

Join the Army is your best option.