Author Topic: What If... (Read 590 times)

FUNKED1 · « **Reply #15 on:** October 27, 2003, 05:43:49 PM »

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Ahh alright I get it now funked, That we'll be mistaken by the U.S. as terrorist ourselves eh? I guess thats possible, But I'd try and befriend the local established army unit. Let them know of our what we're doing, but he'd probably not allow for the outlawness to happen though, and arrest me on the spot. Maybe I could find a cowboy out there, who'd appreciate the support, but It could also be dangerous for his men to if we were operating in the same areas etc...

I am just repeating what I read in "The March Up". Anybody who had a weapon and wasn't wearing a US uniform was a target. And they didn't walk up and say howdy and ask for ID. If it was a group of armed men out of uniform, they'd do things like call in 105 mm fire or open up with an M242 at 1500 yards. They'd find out you were an American when they pulled your wallet out of the pile of bbq'ed meat.

davidpt40 · « **Reply #16 on:** October 27, 2003, 05:44:49 PM »

Who was that drug dealer terrorist in South America that the government couldn't catch? Well anyways a civilian militia started matching his terroristic acts and caused him to stop killing people. And when said terrorist was on the phone complaining to a radio station about how the civilian militia was killing his family, police were able to track him down and execute him.

Ok I remember the name now- Pablo Escabar. I believe it was in Columbia.

BlckMgk · « **Reply #17 on:** October 27, 2003, 05:46:33 PM »

Hahaha... the whole "What If" situation is meant to see what war time laws are there established, to prevent such an undertaking. But the idea of being independent from the U.S. army or any other armed force is the main one.

Of course I could join the Army, but hell, I could also jump off a building if I wanted to die. One would probably be more regarded as more noble, or heroic, but you're dead nonetheless, this is not to say that those men right now on the front, or fighting are going to die, but they do have a much more significant chance of. I can say for certain though that they are very brave men/women for doing so. I have friends and family who are currently In Iraq, for whom I pray for.

Then again this is a "what if" scenario, and I choose to be here behind this keyboard hypothesizing, and my friends choose to be there to fight for the fact I am able to be here and throw my words, ideas around in such a free manner.

-Thanks for all those who replied.

FUNKED1 · « **Reply #18 on:** October 27, 2003, 05:47:22 PM »

David, for more on that, check out Killing Pablo by Mark Bowden, same guy who wrote Blackhawk Down.

BlckMgk · « **Reply #19 on:** October 27, 2003, 05:50:10 PM »

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Originally posted by FUNKED1
I am just repeating what I read in "The March Up". Anybody who had a weapon and wasn't wearing a US uniform was a target. And they didn't walk up and say howdy and ask for ID. If it was a group of armed men out of uniform, they'd do things like call in 105 mm fire or open up with an M242 at 1500 yards. They'd find out you were an American when they pulled your wallet out of the pile of bbq'ed meat.

Hmm this might be a problem. I'd probably be more afraid of the U.S. Army than the terrorist cells, I'd figure the terrorist would only come out for a "planned" attack. The U.S. is kind of always out in the open, with its big stick ready to hit anything that looks threatening

miko2d · « **Reply #20 on:** October 27, 2003, 05:51:02 PM »

I am pretty sure it's legal to arrive into Iraq (through Turkey-Kurdistan, Syria, etc.), buy a rifle there and join a local militia. A foreign member of a militia would not be any more of an illegal combatant than other members of that militia.

There are restrictions on US citizens serving as high-level officers and members of government in foreign countries.

Don't listen to them, BlckMgk - learn the language and go there. Don't forget to write a book. "Homage to Catalonia" is a great book by George Orwell about his participation in Spanish Civil War. Make sure to read it before you go.

miko

RTR · « **Reply #21 on:** October 27, 2003, 07:33:28 PM »

Thats actually a pretty thought provoking question BlckMgk, and I agree..how would we identify them as a terrorist? Indeed what is a terrorist?

check this out

http://www.therationalradical.com/dsep/terrorist-definition.htm

Only one thought process here granted, but kinda makes sense.
If we Raise up a civilian "army" and go hunting those who fit into our definition of a terrorist, what have we become?

No real cut and dried answer is there?

Just a thought.
cheers,
RTR

mrblack · « **Reply #22 on:** October 27, 2003, 07:35:13 PM »

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Yeah I did consider the fact about intelligence, etc. You'd really have to be someone with connections, just to get into Iraq would be pretty hard, as they mentioned above. As far as surviving... thats something one would have to cope with if they did plan on going mercenary style.

-Thanks

Is this guy for real?
Been reading a bit to much Tom Clancy there sonny:rofl

aztec · « **Reply #23 on:** October 27, 2003, 07:58:54 PM »

Of course he's for real...isn't everything here for real?

Gadfly · « **Reply #24 on:** October 27, 2003, 08:04:13 PM »

Killing Pablo is a great book.