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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Citabria on September 17, 2013, 05:36:23 AM
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I finished my Main arena.
hope you enjoy it if it gets put in rotation.
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:banana:
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Any screenshots Fester?
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Anyone know how long it takes for the map to get approved?
<<S>> To Fester for creating this map. Hopefully everyone here is at least respective enough to give Fester a :salute for his hard work.
Any chance we can see some pictures? :devil
Tinkles
<<S>>
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:aok
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WTG Fester, hope to see it online soon. :aok
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Anyone know how long it takes for the map to get approved?
<<S>> To Fester for creating this map. Hopefully everyone here is at least respective enough to give Fester a :salute for his hard work.
Any chance we can see some pictures? :devil
Tinkles
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2 weeks...
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Any chance we can see some pictures? :devil
You might be able to download it by spawning a custom arena and choosing the terrain. Then you could fly around in it or even use the CM Eye feature and zoom around in it and hover over stuff to look at the work.
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You might be able to download it by spawning a custom arena and choosing the terrain. Then you could fly around in it or even use the CM Eye feature and zoom around in it and hover over stuff to look at the work.
Before it rotates into game?
That would be like looking at Fester in his underwear. :O
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Before it rotates into game?
There are many terrains to choose from that aren't in the game rotation. As long as it has been uploaded and accepted by the upload system, you should be able to see it...even if it is never approved by HTC for the Main Arena rotation.
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Fresh maps are so important.
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:salute and thank you for your effort
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:salute and thank you for your effort
+1 :salute
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Hopefully it will pass the validation in a timely fashion :old:
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I finished my Main arena.
hope you enjoy it if it gets put in rotation.
Is this a redo of FesterMA or a whole new map?
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I feel like I've read this before.......................
And then the retraction................... ........
And then the submittal.................... .
:bhead
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I feel like I've read this before.......................
And then the retraction................... ........
And then the submittal.................... .
:bhead
Back and forth?
Tug and pull?
Release?
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:salute For your hard work.
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Way to go
How many days did it take you to make it?
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Thank you for all the time and work you put into the map for the game Fester <<S>> map was is awsome and will make for some very good fights
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Would fester be willing to make it downloadable so we can "beta test" it?
I would imagine interested subscribers could put a request in the wishlist forum after they have checked it out and now want it in main arena rotation.
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:rock
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Back and forth?
Tug and pull?
Release?
I see you've been with Fifi too. :uhoh
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wtg dood! now if we can get some stick men with wire frames running around on it we'll be in business!
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Screenshots! :old:
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Is the water blue and tropical?
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Is the water blue and tropical?
green and Icelandic. ..
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Thanks fester :rock
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wtg dood! now if we can get some stick men with wire frames running around on it we'll be in business!
:O :uhoh :noid :ahand
awesome Fester...I dabbled with the TE :O that thing is a pain in the butt to use..... :bhead :bhead
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WTG Fester!! :salute
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Can't wait to see it, I hope it passes the bar and gets put up soon. Thanks for your effort. :salute
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WTG Fester!
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Thanks for your hard work :salute
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WTG!! Can't wait to see it :salute
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If anyone wants to try out FesterMA but doesn't know how, here is how you do it:
Start Aces High and go to the online arenas screen. Click on the "Custom" tab at the top of the clipboard. If my "festerma test" arena is listed click on that and the terrain files should download. If not, click on "Create arena", type a name in the "Arena Name" box, select "festerma" from the terrain drop down box and click "Create", the file should then download.
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wtg dood! now if we can get some stick men with wire frames running around on it we'll be in business!
:lol
Good job Fester.
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Love the layout of the map. Going to be a good GV map.
However the water is really messed up in the rivers and along the shore lines. There's even some places that are completely missing tiles and you can see into the underworld! :O
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If not, click on "Create arena", type a name in the "Arena Name" box, select "festerma" from the terrain drop down box and click "Create", the file should then download.
As I see it, the newly submitted one should is "fester" in that list, not "festerma", which is the old version (with a 10k airfield in center and missing the strats).
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If anyone wants to try out FesterMA but doesn't know how, here is how you do it:
Start Aces High and go to the online arenas screen. Click on the "Custom" tab at the top of the clipboard. If my "festerma test" arena is listed click on that and the terrain files should download. If not, click on "Create arena", type a name in the "Arena Name" box, select "festerma" from the terrain drop down box and click "Create", the file should then download.
both are older versions actually.
will try to upload latest version.
i sent all files directly to HTC as well.
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renamed it fester01 and uploaded it but it is not showing up yet. maybe skuzzy has some advice to upload latest version without delay?
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fester01 isn't on the servers but if you'd been successful uploading it, then it would be available immediately.
If I might make a suggestion, and I'm pretty sure you know what's needed to do this. Instead of uploading it as fester01, pick the current version on the server that you don't want to be the final name, i.e. fester, and after making a backup copy of your sources, upload the new terrain as fester using the fester host files instead of fester01. If there are no problems then you should see the new terrain download to your FE when you open your custom arena.
I'm curious why you didn't stay with festerma for the name? I liked it.
I wouldn't upload it as fester01 as that might require Skuzzy to delete it before he could start building it with his tools. I think it would have been worth it for festerma hehe
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any word? has anyone been able to download?
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Shouldn't be hard to find. It's the only AH terrain where the creator felt the need to name it after himself. :joystick:
I know there will be some backlash for that for that comment. That's fine, but as the creator of several terrains, I find naming one after yourself a bit prima donna-ish. Some people make content for the game to make it better & some do it for the kudos. :salute
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It's called "fester".
When I created a new custom arena there was a FesterMA and a fester. Fester has the name FesterMA in it's upper right corner. The map looks like a tank commander and fighter pilots furballing dream. Put it up with no password if anyone wants to look. Think I named it Festers New Map.
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fester is an older version.
the terrain uploader has never allowed me to update a map and I had to rename festerma fester the first time i started updating it a long time ago.
as for any response from HTC?
nothing yet.
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fester is an older version.
the terrain uploader has never allowed me to update a map and I had to rename festerma fester the first time i started updating it a long time ago.
as for any response from HTC?
nothing yet.
oh I am sure they said thank you for your time. We will let you know as soon as we get a chance to look at it. Didn't they?
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oh I am sure they said thank you for your time. We will let you know as soon as we get a chance to look at it. Didn't they?
I wish fester had submitted the other maps he rage deleted.
semp
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Hi, I haven't seen it yet, sounds refreshing though.
It better have a fighter town! Id ask for one of those 'non captureable bases for each team.
If it were up to me, all maps would get one, how else to get 'instant action'...
How else to compete with WoT?
Some long flight 'immersion' stuff would be nice too, far behind lines vulnerable bases?
Just the same, thanks much for making a new map. :salute
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oh I am sure they said thank you for your time. We will let you know as soon as we get a chance to look at it. Didn't they?
Surely HiTech and the gang must have said "thank you". Right? I mean that would just be crappy not too, unless the BBS requires that much time to police, lol
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Soooo this is how to got aimbot? :D
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Soooo this is how to got aimbot? :D
My translator broke. Anyone?
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My translator broke. Anyone?
I got nothing..sorry
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My translator broke. Anyone?
Ah. I can speak jive. It says: Do not be a fireman. Become a policeman instead.
You're welcome.
- oldman
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Surely HiTech and the gang must have said "thank you". Right? I mean that would just be crappy not too, unless the BBS requires that much time to police, lol
well after fester being a dick all over the bb including twice mentioning that he had "deleted" the map. and rage quitting every other day. and beatching about how his "beutiful map" was a waste of time based on the current graphics. I would say, he should have gotten the map and well shove it in the recycle bin.
seriously I really do wish it doesnt get added. not because I think it's a bad map as I have not seen it, but more because it wasnt worth the whining he did for the past year or so for that map.
semp
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well after fester being a dick all over the bb including twice mentioning that he had "deleted" the map. and rage quitting every other day. and beatching about how his "beutiful map" was a waste of time based on the current graphics. I would say, he should have gotten the map and well shove it in the recycle bin.
seriously I really do wish it doesnt get added. not because I think it's a bad map as I have not seen it, but more because it wasnt worth the whining he did for the past year or so for that map.
semp
come on Semp. A new map is a new map. What does the bbs have to do with it?
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if some random guy offers you a sweet would you gladly take it and get in the back of his Van?
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LOL guncrasher. There are several other arenas where you may enjoy the benefits of your $14.95 and they don't cost you one red cent extra. It isn't required that you participate in the LW when his terrain is up and it isn't in the htc terms of service that you are owed anything if you refuse to play on it.
As for whether you and I agree with his previous posts. We don't have to read them let alone somehow suffer from his words. I believe everyone is entitled to a bad day now and then and some people even experience bad years!
I don't know if fester's terrain will be accepted or not, and I've never asked him what was causing him problems but I'm curious. What frustrations of AH content creation have you experienced that put you in a position to judge those who have? Have you spent more then an hour with any of the editors?
It's a serious question in light of very little if any appreciation shown to those who provide time creating terrains, objects, skins, cloud files and missions. I think you guys should cut the man some slack instead of spreading poo.
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well after fester being a dick all over the bb including twice mentioning that he had "deleted" the map. and rage quitting every other day. and beatching about how his "beutiful map" was a waste of time based on the current graphics. I would say, he should have gotten the map and well shove it in the recycle bin.
seriously I really do wish it doesnt get added. not because I think it's a bad map as I have not seen it, but more because it wasnt worth the whining he did for the past year or so for that map.
semp
well, I think we don't have enough maps to be fussy about this kind of thing...since the players have to make them instead of HTC providing
look at it this way...we all got to have a good laugh at Fester's primadonna posturing and crybaby posts about deleting the map, AND we should still be getting a new map added!
it's win-win!! :aok
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This thread is turning into another prime example of why this game or BBS cant retain new members, you are grown men for Gods sake act like it! You don't have anything nice to say then DON"T say it.
I poked around with the terrain editor and I have to say it would take countless hours of time to make a new map, if some of you guys spent as much time with the editor as you do trolling around here we would have a new map made every week.
Now that that has been said.....
I would like to thank all the gang that take the time to make Maps, Skins, sounds and run the special events with out them this game would have gone away a long time ago, a very big :salute to them.
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both are older versions actually.
will try to upload latest version.
i sent all files directly to HTC as well.
I do not know who you sent them to, but I did not get them. If our email server bounced them, you would have gotten an email about it. If the terrain creator wishes to discuss this, so we can expedite things, please use email or PM's.
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No matter what some think of the guy, the fact that he's contributed to players enjoyment of this game by producing these maps and skins can not be denied. I don't like Truman Capote personally but he writes a damn good book.
well after fester being a dick all over the bb including twice mentioning that he had "deleted" the map. and rage quitting every other day. and beatching about how his "beutiful map" was a waste of time based on the current graphics. I would say, he should have gotten the map and well shove it in the recycle bin.
seriously I really do wish it doesnt get added. not because I think it's a bad map as I have not seen it, but more because it wasnt worth the whining he did for the past year or so for that map.
semp
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I do not know who you sent them to, but I did not get them. If our email server bounced them, you would have gotten an email about it. If the terrain creator wishes to discuss this, so we can expedite things, please use email or PM's.
thanks skuzzy! private message sent over this bbs to you.
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well after fester being a dick all over the bb including twice mentioning that he had "deleted" the map. and rage quitting every other day. and beatching about how his "beutiful map" was a waste of time based on the current graphics. I would say, he should have gotten the map and well shove it in the recycle bin.
seriously I really do wish it doesnt get added. not because I think it's a bad map as I have not seen it, but more because it wasnt worth the whining he did for the past year or so for that map.
semp
Your whining gets a bit old too.
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Your whining gets a bit old too.
oh man that's the best insult you can come up with? and you call yourself a muppet :rolleyes:.
semp
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oh man that's the best insult you can come up with? and you call yourself a muppet :rolleyes:.
semp
Not an insult a request. Painful to watch a grown man get so worked up over cartoon pilots.
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Painful to watch a grown man get so worked up over cartoon pilots.
OMG, I can't believe a Muppet said that.
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fester terrain (newest version) now available in custom arenas download the fester terrain to look around.
NOTE: FESTERMA is the origional version not the updated one.
TO SEE NEW UPDTAED VERSION USE the fester terrain.
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Thanks Fester
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OMG, I can't believe a Muppet said that.
:huh
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notes and areas of interest...
this map tries to incorporate as may varieties of fights as possible through using varied base setups and combinations. the fighting style (air vs air only, combined air/ground, ground vs ground, sea vs sea, air vs sea) of your preference should be available at any time depending on location you fight.
this is a medium sized map (like ozkansas my other ma terrain) on a 512 area with the front designed to be about the size of a small terrain while having depth enough to make large areas capturable while still making continued fights sustainable even with small numbers.
highly desirable center airbase has an uncapturable enemy vbase next to it to ensure this highly strategic location is under constant attack and very dangerous to fly out of.
carrier vs carrier fight setup in center of each sea with each side owning an uncapturable cv/port in each ocean with these fleets spawning in close proximity to a capturable port/ cv fleet. the owner of this fleet has three viable options in its use... defend port. attack coastal airbases. hide. all of which are strategically viable.
ozkansas gv/airbase chains extending to the enemy city which by design does not move when the bases near it are captured. thus allowing a gv assault/defense on the city itself if the opposing team is able to advance to it.
gv base chains isolated from airbases by distance and or terrains to increase time it takes for air attack on these locations and allow more concentrated gv vs gv action.
lots of rivers and hand textured and contoured terrain to bring maximum detail and realism possible.
great care has been placed upon making the setup of the map lend itself to promoting varied types of combat even with large portions of the map captured right up to the point where the map will be reset.
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highly desirable center airbase has an uncapturable enemy vbase next to it to ensure this highly strategic location is under constant attack and very dangerous to fly out of.
In my opinion it's still very unbalancing giving one and only one country a 8k base with a clear path to both other countries strats from the start. That's a huge initial advantage
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I added the uncapturable gv bases right next to it to checkmate this base. it is initially given to the lower right country which tends to be attacked most for whatever reason.
a good m4 player can out of los shell down the airfield from his own gv pad or drive a very short distance to get more accurate line of sight and take out the two ammo bunkers to neuter this base.
the hope is such a valuable base will be the source of a lot of fighting over facilitated by gv bases uncapturable next to it making sure it is under constant threat of being over run. with the ammo bunkers hit aaa vehicles will have great fun with any planes strugling out of the place :devil
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Hehehe can't wait!! Let the games begin new map I'm in!!! Thanks fester for the hard work :salute now fly so I can vulch you..oops I mean kill you :neener:
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gv base chains isolated from airbases by distance and or terrains to increase time it takes for air attack on these locations and allow more concentrated gv vs gv action.
oh Bear, sounds like we get date night back.
Ah. I can speak jive. It says: Do not be a fireman. Become a policeman instead.
You're welcome.
- oldman
uh oh, what if you're both? Does that bring balance to the farce?
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Not an insult a request. Painful to watch a grown man get so worked up over cartoon pilots.
I am not worked up. I didnt whine and beatch for two years and threaten to delete the map not once but twice and rage quit numerous times every week. you want to see grown men all worked up over a cartoon game see no further than some of your squadies.
I come here to fly with a couple of friends, shoot the breeze, talk big about the "big one" that got away and laugh. and if I dont get my way, I dont threaten to quit, or delete the film I have been working on for 3 years now (sorry shawk, still not happy with it :)).
on that note :salute
semp
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uh oh, what if you're both? Does that bring balance to the farce?
Are you running for office? :D
(http://www.ironicsans.com/images/starwarspolitics.jpg)
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Are you running for office? :D
(http://www.ironicsans.com/images/starwarspolitics.jpg)
That's awesome :aok
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I am not worked up. I didnt whine and beatch for two years and threaten to delete the map not once but twice and rage quit numerous times every week. you want to see grown men all worked up over a cartoon game see no further than some of your squadies.
I come here to fly with a couple of friends, shoot the breeze, talk big about the "big one" that got away and laugh. and if I dont get my way, I dont threaten to quit, or delete the film I have been working on for 3 years now (sorry shawk, still not happy with it :)).
on that note :salute
semp
Your Fester and Grizz infatuation is getting creepy.
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Your Fester and Grizz infatuation is getting creepy.
no, you stalking me is getting creepy.
semp
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no, you stalking me is getting creepy.
semp
:rofl How many maps have you made for this game? Someone's willing to put in the time and the effort to do it and all you can do is complain? Put your Muppet demons in the closet and just enjoy the game.
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I weighed the good (community technical contribution, though delayed and used as leverage at one point) and bad (community personality disorder involving inappropriate personal attacks with no remorse or apology) behavior. Came out neutral. I no doubt will enjoy the map. I will save praise for a further date based upon any other contribution/change in behavior.
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I weighed the good (community technical contribution, though delayed and used as leverage at one point) and bad (community personality disorder involving inappropriate personal attacks with no remorse or apology) behavior. Came out neutral. I no doubt will enjoy the map. I will save praise for a further date based upon any other contribution/change in behavior.
It's a new map, not a debate about morality in a video game. Just say thanks and enjoy it.
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As I said. How about I just enjoy it, for now.
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Are you running for office? :D
(http://www.ironicsans.com/images/starwarspolitics.jpg)
I was for the invasion of Hoth before I voted against it! :old:
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I was for the invasion of Hoth before I voted against it! :old:
:lol
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:rofl How many maps have you made for this game? Someone's willing to put in the time and the effort to do it and all you can do is complain? Put your Muppet demons in the closet and just enjoy the game.
how many maps have you made? what is your contribution to this game?
semp
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how many maps have you made? what is your contribution to this game?
semp
He's not the one crying about maps?
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how many maps have you made? what is your contribution to this game?
semp
Would you like to ask me that question?
btw, I'm still waiting for you to answer my question since you're still working this thread like it was your salaried job.
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He's not the one crying about maps?
I wanst crying fester was :rofl :rofl.. he was whining that his pretty map was being wasted with current graphics :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl..
semp
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Would you like to ask me that question?
btw, I'm still waiting for you to answer my question since you're still working this thread like it was your salaried job.
please do tell which question you asked me?
semp
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He's not the one crying about maps?
I never said he was did I?
semp
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please do tell which question you asked me?
semp
Reply #56 in this thread. The questions you ignored.
I don't know if fester's terrain will be accepted or not, and I've never asked him what was causing him problems but I'm curious. What frustrations of AH content creation have you experienced that put you in a position to judge those who have? Have you spent more then an hour with any of the editors?
It's a serious question in light of very little if any appreciation shown to those who provide time creating terrains, objects, skins, cloud files and missions. I think you guys should cut the man some slack instead of spreading poo.[/quote/
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haters gotta hate.
What you probably have come to understand is that regular people hate success, particularly the success of somebody who is their better or superior. These types of people are usually incapable of being subordinate to anyone, and instead of creating a situation where you could probably have helped them improve their abilities, they would rather just attack over some nit picky ridiculous non issue as they fear that they may not be able to actually improve themselves, and it's simpler to try and drag their betters down to their level instead.
In any case, don't let the idiots on the BBS get you angry, I realize that can be tough, very tough at times, but you figured that out on your own by the looks of it and have just let the rest of the BS pass by. I worked for some celebs in Hollywood and elsewhere with the private military company I worked with after I did some tours in the mid east, and after that experience it really opened up my eyes to how much people love to attack those that have been more successful than themselves. It bothered every one of them, including some very tough guys like Bruce Willis, who just happened to be actors, but are otherwise pretty solidly mentally and physically tough people. If it can get to them, don't feel badly about it getting to you, but also remember that the reason it is occurring at all is that you're better than them, and take heart.
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why are you guys arguing with drunky mcgee?
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why are you guys arguing with drunky mcgee?
Drunky McGee does not sound Hispanic to me...
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why are you guys arguing with drunky mcgee?
Good point. I usually don't respond to all the ignorant tripe that _fill in the blank for today_ has to say.
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how many maps have you made?
what is your contribution to this game?
semp
Same as you. Probably about $2000 :x
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Jeepers creepers Semp, guessing you had something to do with keeping the bickering going for some of the two years(?)
Was all you this time! Spam up the thread some more, c'mon!
Sempers gonna semp? :rofl
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Our crab bucket politicking aside.
The new fester map will make the GVers happy and not give many advantages to pilots other than to fight for what they want. The very starkly defined fronts with generous lines of fall back and regroup fields. Will either force large missons which even NOE will become apparent quickly. Or stall out into large furballs at 3 spots on the map.
I wish the three TT GV bases were uncapturable. Late nights would see furballs over that area like at the TT on CraterMA. If that's not possible, secondary fall back GV bases like on CraterMA might make it easier for the mid day or evening crew to reclaim their territory since the nearest other airfields are only a sector away at the same elevation. It may be more than bomber pilots can resist to not run low level conga line carpet bombing trains at the center fields to shut them down and capture all in a movement late night.
Or that's the reason for such a juicy set of targets out in the open.
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If this terrain gets accepted and put into LW rotation, I only hope it's replacing another large terrain instead of just being added.
Not because I don't like the other large maps, in fact I love them and the huge variety of gameplay they do allow in theory.
But in practice the numbers don't really support them anymore. For all but the peak 3-4 hours of the day it's just too much area for too few people. And large maps tend to be up for a disproportional amount of time compared to the higher number of small maps.
That's sad, but that's how it is.
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I hope its a good addition. Sounds good on paper anyway. If I couldn't enjoy things created by folks who can sometimes be a#$hats or drama queens, I would have to toss most of my CDs, rarely watch a movie, and sell my Van Goghs.
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I hope its a good addition. Sounds good on paper anyway. If I couldn't enjoy things created by folks who can sometimes be a#$hats or drama queens, I would have to toss most of my CDs, rarely watch a movie, and sell my Van Goghs.
Must have an antagonist(s) in any drama :)
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Must have an antagonist(s) in any drama :)
The antagonist(s) being? :)
This could have existed without the drama. People will interpret that from whatever
perspective their own bias warrants. ;)
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use default setup on the fester terrain bustr. the 3 center gv bases are uncapturable.
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The antagonist(s) being? :)
This could have existed without the drama. People will interpret that from whatever
perspective their own bias warrants. ;)
I was talking about the game, not this thread. As for the drama here, yes it was unnecessary, but someone had to make it personal.
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I was talking about the game, not this thread. As for the drama here, yes it was unnecessary, but someone had to make it personal.
Someone(s). Even the talented terrain/skin maker has that element of personality
(reflected in this thread).
I'll be enjoying the terrain. I may be learning from it, as well.
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use default setup on the fester terrain bustr. the 3 center gv bases are uncapturable.
Then sir, you got a potential corker of a late night ball buster with fun for everyone. Furballers and bomb griefers in the center killing each other and dying to flakers while the GV commanders vulch each other. Milk runners and base sneakers on the edges where you can up in a split second from that fun and be ready to smack em down. I feel sorry for whoever owns that airbase in the center. Wonder what kinds of whines will ensue when the GV hangers get taken down on the uncapterable and the spawn camping is right at the door? NOE carpet bombers from one sector away to save the GVers?
GVgawd: waaaaaaaaaa they camped my GV base with tigerII and I can't get up.
Bombrguy: one lanc carpet cleaner conga line 60 seconds out NOE.
GVgawd: they have wirbels.
Bombrguy: how's 10 lanc boxes? can't get us all heheheee.
bombrguy: by the way 5 boxes are already hitting their GV base.
You can't capture them. But, you can sure sit on them and keep your kill string growing one way or another.
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you got the idea behind it all bustr.
make sure everyone gets killed with the maximum amount of explosions coming from all directions :)
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Now that I've played around on the map a little and got a good look at it, I'm convinced HTC won't approve it for MA.. It just to unbalanced between the teams.
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wha? lol
all 3 sides are near mirror images of eachother with differences being terrain and water (just like ozkansas)
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Now that I've played around on the map a little and got a good look at it, I'm convinced HTC won't approve it for MA.. It just to unbalanced between the teams.
I have not got to look at it but I assumed it was an updated version of the previously approved and used festerMA which was the best map we ever had in my opinion.
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yeah its the updated version.
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Now that I've played around on the map a little and got a good look at it, I'm convinced HTC won't approve it for MA.. It just to unbalanced between the teams.
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
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hosting fester MA in custom arenas right now for next 30 min or so if anyone would like to join us and make suggestions or just view the terrain I will be there for the next half hour.
thanks.
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Downloaded. Nice one.
Going to use if offline and enable tower gods eye and fly around.
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update.
HTC got the files and are reviewing them.
[NOTE: VIEW THIS ARENA BY GOING TO CUSTOM ARENAS AND SELECTING THE fester TERRAIN AND SET EVERYTHING TO DEFAULT AND CREATE THE CUSTOM ARENA OR VIEW IT OFFLINE.]
I do not anticipate any construction problems as I was extremely meticulous making the map.
the map is designed with a narrow but deep front to make it viable in off hours as well as prime time and allow land capture to not slow down the action.
will have to wait for final word on my gameplay setup decisions which in some cases like ozkansas have not been yet tried. (cv battle port areas, uncapturable gv area with capturable air base in center.) however these setups were made from the basis of experience of playing the game over a decade and I believe they will be fun points of conflict.
the gv/airbase chains however have been tried in ozkansas and I think are very successful in combined land and air battles. in this map they have been expanded to allow areas to be captured while keeping the fight going up to the prize of being in position to ground assault the enemies city where extensive railroad and convoy routes are between the gv bases next to the city.
I hope HTC will allow these concepts to be used in this MA and if they are not enjoyable I will update the map and remove or redesign them but i think they will work. I hope their willingness to trust me like they did with the ozkansas terrain setup will be continued on this MA terrain.
also a point of note is every country is given an advantage front and a disadvantage front by starting ownership of the captureable fleet in the middle of each sea flanked by a friendly and enemy uncapturable fleet spawning nearby from an uncapturable port.
in turn on the front where a country has a CV group advantage they start with one less gv base in the ozkansas chain on the same front giving them a slight disadvantage in the battle in the middle of the map.
keep in mind this is the starting setup and is possibly a short term advantage that can be changed in the first attacks by any of the countries as these advantages and disadvantages lie directly on the very front line starting positions.
the decision to give the southeast country ownership of the middle base at start was based on its position. in the history of AH the southeast country is almost always attacked more than the north and west ones. the reasons for this are not clear cut but it was also the owner country of the base in the original version of the map years ago and in spite of this or maybe because of it the southeast country was ussually the one being attacked most.
the uncapturable vbases flanking the center base are not meant to be a tank town so much as a checkmate to the airbase that will put it under constant threat of capture from any coordinated attack. with the vbases nearby the airbase can be easily disabled by ground attack no matter which country has ownership of it. I think of the uncapturable center vbases in these mountains as dug into the hills and impossible to eliminate insurgency type entities in a sense.
heres a pic of the layout. I put red boxes around the uncapturable bases similar to how they look in game.
(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x205/p38fester/fester.jpg)
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Sounds good. Cant wait to try it in game :aok
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Gosh Fester...I didn't get you anything...thanks for the map :salute
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So when do we get this thing??
It looks like it's going to be a screeching, whining, wear your big boys pants map with no place to hide. You muppets are going make people hate you in your K4 and 262 when ever it's in rotation.
You should have named this one:
Silence of the Baby Seals, Bbburrrrrrpppp!!!!
:)
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HTC is looking over the gameplay setup and I am updating it immediately once they give me info on anything they want changed and sending them the updated files.
if everything checks out on skuzzy's error checking its just a matter of the gameplay setup choices I have made being approved.
I believe once those hurdles are cleared it could get built immediately and put into rotation?
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update.
HTC got the files and are reviewing them.
[NOTE: VIEW THIS ARENA BY GOING TO CUSTOM ARENAS AND SELECTING THE fester TERRAIN AND SET EVERYTHING TO DEFAULT AND CREATE THE CUSTOM ARENA OR VIEW IT OFFLINE.]
I do not anticipate any construction problems as I was extremely meticulous making the map.
the map is designed with a narrow but deep front to make it viable in off hours as well as prime time and allow land capture to not slow down the action.
will have to wait for final word on my gameplay setup decisions which in some cases like ozkansas have not been yet tried. (cv battle port areas, uncapturable gv area with capturable air base in center.) however these setups were made from the basis of experience of playing the game over a decade and I believe they will be fun points of conflict.
the gv/airbase chains however have been tried in ozkansas and I think are very successful in combined land and air battles. in this map they have been expanded to allow areas to be captured while keeping the fight going up to the prize of being in position to ground assault the enemies city where extensive railroad and convoy routes are between the gv bases next to the city.
I hope HTC will allow these concepts to be used in this MA and if they are not enjoyable I will update the map and remove or redesign them but i think they will work. I hope their willingness to trust me like they did with the ozkansas terrain setup will be continued on this MA terrain.
also a point of note is every country is given an advantage front and a disadvantage front by starting ownership of the captureable fleet in the middle of each sea flanked by a friendly and enemy uncapturable fleet spawning nearby from an uncapturable port.
in turn on the front where a country has a CV group advantage they start with one less gv base in the ozkansas chain on the same front giving them a slight disadvantage in the battle in the middle of the map.
keep in mind this is the starting setup and is possibly a short term advantage that can be changed in the first attacks by any of the countries as these advantages and disadvantages lie directly on the very front line starting positions.
the decision to give the southeast country ownership of the middle base at start was based on its position. in the history of AH the southeast country is almost always attacked more than the north and west ones. the reasons for this are not clear cut but it was also the owner country of the base in the original version of the map years ago and in spite of this or maybe because of it the southeast country was ussually the one being attacked most.
the uncapturable vbases flanking the center base are not meant to be a tank town so much as a checkmate to the airbase that will put it under constant threat of capture from any coordinated attack. with the vbases nearby the airbase can be easily disabled by ground attack no matter which country has ownership of it. I think of the uncapturable center vbases in these mountains as dug into the hills and impossible to eliminate insurgency type entities in a sense.
heres a pic of the layout. I put red boxes around the uncapturable bases similar to how they look in game.
(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x205/p38fester/fester.jpg)
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It wont make it in its lacking in so many ways.
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(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk121/TheAmish/puddinpops.gif)
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It wont make it in its lacking in so many ways.
In what ways?
I spent an hour with fester, checking out the map as he explained the purpose of the layout and the gameplay features. From that conversation I can certainly tell you alot of thought was put into the making of this map. Every location of each airfield, every spawn, altitudes of airfields and the terrain tiles used are all there for a specific reason. Even the rotation of base captures along the map was taken into account.
I cant say if the map will work in terms of gameplay in the MA, but I'm really excited about what I see. Hopefully HTC will like it too.
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hosting Fester MA in custom arenas for next 30 min or so if anyone is interested in looking it over.
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It wont make it in its lacking in so many ways.
Funny, all that time we used it before seemed to work out pretty well. :headscratch:
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Funny, all that time we used it before seemed to work out pretty well. :headscratch:
Indeed it did.
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Very kool driving pt's down a river to a neighbor base amphibious assault :rock
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I hope it makes it in. The more maps the better and this one looks good.
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appreciate your hard work but honestly I never liked large maps; imop the 4 old small maps Baltic, small isle,uterus and Mindanao are still the best maps on rotation.
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It's not the number of fields that kills the big maps, it is the length of the front lines. Too many front line fields means diluted gameplay. Fester's map has the fields laid out in rows from the front line back, so players wont have much more choice of base to up/spawn from than on a small map.
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when I designed this map and ozkansas I used a large map area but was committed to making the battle area only slightly larger than the small maps...
I view them as medium maps using a large map area...
(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x205/p38fester/fester-1.jpg)
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when I designed this map and ozkansas I used a large map area but was committed to making the battle area only slightly larger than the small maps...
I view them as medium maps using a large map area...
This is a great concept, Fester, as it allows those who want to get to a fight in a congested area quickly to do so, but also allows realistic climb outs for bombers and flanking actions for those who want to play more strategically!
Your new map looks great and I hope it is approved for LWMA rotation :aok
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I hope it makes it in. The more maps the better and this one looks good.
+1
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for those that you mentioned that like the strategy aspect the flanks are certainly available for land grab from land or sea based missions.
the part I want to experience most is driving up the ozkansas center vbase airbase chain straight into the enemy city and smashing it with a massive ground assault :devil
so few maps let gv dweebs indulge themselves in the ultimate toolshed dweebery of leveling the city. if the gv dweebs are able to take the whole ozkansas chain they have a treat at the end of it to run amok with and facilitate the map being reset.
nice targets are between the gv spawns and the cities... trains, convoys, multiple railroad tracks and a road all along the route providing nice targets of oportunity. along with a counter spawn from the next base that the defending country can use to continue the gv war with of course.
bombers were taken into consideration too.
one of the uncapturable bases on each country (a1,a2,a3) is high altitude and also has a clear runway over run area with no obstacles extending a mile or so beyond the runways so even a 100% full bombload b29 can takeoff on auto with no fear of crashing ( a big deal for some bomber fans). shorter time to climb to alt and no death on takeoff in a very expensive bomber :)
the center base with the vbases is high altitude but has hills on all sides making takeoff more dangerous but the base ownership gives bombers a clear route to the enemy cities and a shorter climb to altitude by being a high alt base... if they can get past the wirbels from the uncapturable vbases that will likely be lurking looking for wallowing fat bomb laiden targets trying to gain altitude.
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I guess you could say I hope the map will allow large amounts of base captures in a fun area to not stop the fight but move it into even more interesting locations.
hopefully with this in mind the base capture crowd can run hog wild and those that just want a good fight will never have trouble finding it.
because the front is not much larger than SFMA's starting base line though much deeper it is hoped the players will be forced to run into eachother no matter where they attack and no matter how much land is taken the fight will be there for all wanting it.
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Question (forgive me if it's been answered) - are the fields/ports highlighted in red the ones that are uncapturable?
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yes arlo. on that diagram I put red boxes around the uncapturable fields.
but those uncapturable cv's out in the edges of the map that spawn next to that port...
HT wanted those uncapturable cv groups moved next to their uncapturable ports.
the only direct change this will make in gameplay in that area is it will take a while longer for the center port to come under carrier attack giving a break in the carrier action in that area instead of continuous cv battle in these spots.
thats the only point that has come up so far during HTC's review of the map and I already updated the files and changed it immediately upon getting their response and sent them the updated files.
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yes arlo. on that diagram I put red boxes around the uncapturable fields.
but those uncapturable cv's out in the edges of the map that spawn next to that port...
HT wanted those uncapturable cv groups moved next to their uncapturable ports.
the only direct change this will make in gameplay in that area is it will take a while longer for the center port to come under carrier attack giving a break in the carrier action in that area instead of continuous cv battle in these spots.
thats the only point that has come up so far during HTC's review of the map and I already updated the files and changed it immediately upon getting their response and sent them the updated files.
Ok. Thanks for the repsonse. My personal preference is to have the opportunity for CV ops in the MA. I don't even much mind there being moments of 'continuous action.' Every side having a port that can't be captured is a good thing, imo.
:salute
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Any word from HTC yet? I'm getting nervous here. :aok
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Once a country captures the GV base next to the Strat, won't the auto retreat of the Strat to the rear of the country kick in?
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Once a country captures the GV base next to the Strat, won't the auto retreat of the Strat to the rear of the country kick in?
Not unless that has been coaded in. From the looks of it, it appears as if the HQ and strats are supposed to be an integral part of this map, not an afterthought or a secondary target. :aok
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Once a country captures the GV base next to the Strat, won't the auto retreat of the Strat to the rear of the country kick in?
no the strats on this map remain in place just like small maps.
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You is a badddd man.
Ft. Apache here we come..........
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any news?
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any news?
2 weeks :old:
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2 weeks :old:
:rock
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Whatever happened with this map? Are we going to see it in the MA soon? We are definitely ready for a new map. :salute
Fatty
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2 weeks :old:
:banana: Yep. Gotta go with the fortnight as well.
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It will never see rotation in the MA. Its lacking in way to many ways. Damn shame we could all enjoy a new map.
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It will never see rotation in the MA. Its lacking in way to many ways. Damn shame we could all enjoy a new map.
And you say this based on what evidence? Surely you have more than just your opinion.
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:O :O :O :O :O Bobbies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :x :x :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :old: :old: :old:
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the new terrain engine might have somthing to do with the delay :)
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This is the map I'm asking about in my other thread...
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This is the map I'm asking about in my other thread...
Yes, and its still not here :o
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Yes, and its still not here :o
Ok, thanks Pervert. Was just curious...I think this new map could be fun.