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Title: Speaking of P-38's
Post by: chrish483 on March 07, 2008, 07:57:21 PM
Anyone else read this book on the 6 P-38's and 2 B-17's that were forced to land in Greenland do to bad weather. 
 
(http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/2844/18962571zh7.jpg)

interesting enough that this guy Pat Epps thought they could locate these planes, brush the snow off fix them up and fly them out of there.
but they ended up finding them at a depth of 250 feet in solid ice.
Title: Re: Speaking of P-38's
Post by: Wingnutt on March 07, 2008, 08:26:03 PM
original SAPP landing?
Title: Re: Speaking of P-38's
Post by: chrish483 on March 07, 2008, 08:36:15 PM
original SAPP landing?

oh no these planes were completely intact when they landed :rofl

interesting book tho
Title: Re: Speaking of P-38's
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on March 07, 2008, 08:47:27 PM
oh no these planes were completely intact when they landed :rofl

interesting book tho

Nope, the first P-38 that landed flipped over.
Title: Re: Speaking of P-38's
Post by: chrish483 on March 07, 2008, 09:04:31 PM
I i was referring to the SAPP deal. 

but your right it was Brad McManus that landed first and when the nose gear hit the ice it broke through and flipped the plane over.
Title: Re: Speaking of P-38's
Post by: DoNKeY on March 07, 2008, 09:35:16 PM
Jeez, that's a picture perfect landing.  There's even snow to put out the fires...

donkey
Title: Re: Speaking of P-38's
Post by: chrish483 on March 07, 2008, 10:31:22 PM
hay there donkey

photo in question here is this one

(http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/7801/76203058be8.jpg)
Title: Re: Speaking of P-38's
Post by: chrish483 on March 07, 2008, 10:48:17 PM
forgot to include that he was the 1st and last to land with gear down.

the ISBN # of the book is  0-7868-6048-0
Title: Re: Speaking of P-38's
Post by: DoNKeY on March 07, 2008, 11:23:43 PM
lol.  hmm, so do you get to dig a little snow fort tunnel out of that landing?


donkey
Title: Re: Speaking of P-38's
Post by: chrish483 on March 07, 2008, 11:54:55 PM
well if your cockpit is in the snow with 3 tons of machine holding it down you would half to dig a rabbit hole out of there, 

even the kickin power of donkey wouldnt get his "ass" out :rofl :aok
Title: Re: Speaking of P-38's
Post by: Spikes on March 08, 2008, 12:00:15 AM
 :rofl :rofl
I need this book.
Title: Re: Speaking of P-38's
Post by: chrish483 on March 08, 2008, 12:17:15 AM
i put up the ISBN # spike.  with that you can locate it at any book store or Amazon.com

I was kidding donkey,  book sais he got out through a side window in the cockpit,  he had to wiggle alot to get out tho.

spike its not a funny book but a history book on these planes and alot of good pics and how they got one or more of the planes out of there since then.

interesting to read about it,  here is one that belly landed, the 2 black spots behind it are the props and hubs.

(http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/4438/18134894hb4.jpg)
Title: Re: Speaking of P-38's
Post by: DoNKeY on March 08, 2008, 01:04:24 AM
i put up the ISBN # spike.  with that you can locate it at any book store or Amazon.com

I was kidding donkey,  book sais he got out through a side window in the cockpit,  he had to wiggle alot to get out tho.

spike its not a funny book but a history book on these planes and alot of good pics and how they got one or more of the planes out of there since then.

interesting to read about it,  here is one that belly landed, the 2 black spots behind it are the props and hubs.

(http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/4438/18134894hb4.jpg)


lol no problem.  I bet thier hearts were beating hard during all of that.
Title: Re: Speaking of P-38's
Post by: chrish483 on March 08, 2008, 02:23:25 AM


id say low on gas and having to ditch like that my  heart would be in my lap beating away lol

seeing th first plane  land and flip on its top you know its soft ground there and then to belly land and slide to  a stop.

question,   what was the names of the 2 B17's that was with the 38's?
Title: Re: Speaking of P-38's
Post by: Yossarian on March 08, 2008, 03:19:30 AM
I don't know whether this is true or not, but I heard from my Dad (he loves P-38s) that these pilots used their parachutes to slide around whilst they were waiting to be rescued.  If so, sounds like fun  :)

<S>

Yossarian
Title: Re: Speaking of P-38's
Post by: rstel01 on March 08, 2008, 07:11:05 AM
One of them was recovered and is flying:

Here is the short story

http://p38assn.org/glacier-girl.htm
Title: Re: Speaking of P-38's
Post by: Masherbrum on March 08, 2008, 09:06:32 AM
Read the write up in National Geographic back in 1995 or so.   Might have to pick up this book. 
Title: Re: Speaking of P-38's
Post by: LEDPIG on March 08, 2008, 10:35:06 AM


Let's just get it straight the P-38 was the best fighter plane ever built... It could out bomb a B-17, outurn a Zero, outrun a 262, out climb a Me-163, and an entire squadron F-16's would be hard pressed to shoot it down.

It was nicknamed "Der Gabelshwanz teufel" because the Germans were just so whimpering scared of it. It defeated the entire Luftwaffe by itself and and the other planes were just there for moral support.

All 38 pilots were the best ever, and it is without a doubt the sexiest plane ever built...

There i think we've FINALY cleared that up .....


 :P
Title: Re: Speaking of P-38's
Post by: Wingnutt on March 08, 2008, 10:49:26 AM

Let's just get it straight the P-38 was the best fighter plane ever built... It could out bomb a B-17, outurn a Zero, outrun a 262, out climb a Me-163, and an entire squadron F-16's would be hard pressed to shoot it down.

It was nicknamed "Der Gabelshwanz teufel" because the Germans were just so whimpering scared of it. It defeated the entire Luftwaffe by itself and and the other planes were just there for moral support.

All 38 pilots were the best ever, and it is without a doubt the sexiest plane ever built...

There i think we've FINALY cleared that up .....


 :P

I understand Chuck Norris flew one.
Title: Re: Speaking of P-38's
Post by: chrish483 on March 08, 2008, 04:54:54 PM
I don't know whether this is true or not, but I heard from my Dad (he loves P-38s) that these pilots used their parachutes to slide around whilst they were waiting to be rescued.  If so, sounds like fun  :)

<S>

Yossarian

your right on that.
(http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/8739/64911587oc6.jpg)
Title: Re: Speaking of P-38's
Post by: chrish483 on March 08, 2008, 05:16:52 PM
One of them was recovered and is flying:

Here is the short story

http://p38assn.org/glacier-girl.htm


i read through the link there and i find it odd that they wonderd if glacier-girl was this 38 in the photo
(http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/4438/18134894hb4.th.jpg) (http://img356.imageshack.us/my.php?image=18134894hb4.jpg)

it cant be as both props are broke off and laying in the snow behind the plane.  the one they recoverd clearly shows both props still on it.
(http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/1065/83765068tj6.jpg)